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Welshlamb
Yearling
United Kingdom
711 Posts |
 Posted - 11/11/2012 : 18:49:13
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Hello,
George is growing fast and is only 3 months old and eating fluffs (not sure if this is average). But I think this is not filling him and he may need to go to the next size?
What is the next size? Does this sound like a good plan?
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Raycheroo
Hatchling
United Kingdom
102 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 18:51:27
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| how big is the snake? that worries me a bit....is it leaving a lump? how many are you feeding it in one sitting? |
 
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Welshlamb
Yearling
United Kingdom
711 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 18:53:04
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Originally posted by Raycheroo
how big is the snake? that worries me a bit....is it leaving a lump? how many are you feeding it in one sitting?
He is weighing in at 17g. He been eating fluffs no problem (he also ate a pinky with a fluff one time)Hes had about 4 feeds this way. Is it concerning because they are to small or too big? |
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Raycheroo
Hatchling
United Kingdom
102 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 18:55:33
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| i guess every snake is different, but 3 months seems a lil young to be eating fluffs, i am only saying this in my opinion as i have a 9 month old corn and he has only just moved up to bigger mice |
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Welshlamb
Yearling
United Kingdom
711 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 18:56:43
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| Ok thanks for the advice, at what age did he start on fluffs ? |
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Raycheroo
Hatchling
United Kingdom
102 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 18:59:54
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if your snake hasnt regurged i guess he can handle it....did you try feeding him 2 pinkies or just go straight for fluffs?
umm pabs we moved up when he was about 6 months and george around 7, however we may just being over cautious |
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Welshlamb
Yearling
United Kingdom
711 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 19:04:21
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Originally posted by Raycheroo
if your snake hasnt regurged i guess he can handle it....did you try feeding him 2 pinkies or just go straight for fluffs?
umm pabs we moved up when he was about 6 months and george around 7, however we may just being over cautious
I tried two pinkies, but left no lumps |
Edited by - Welshlamb on 11/11/2012 19:04:30 |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 19:05:23
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| if the snake is big enough for fluffs then fluffs it is. We have a good few of our hatchies taking fluffs at 4 months old easily |
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Welshlamb
Yearling
United Kingdom
711 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 19:07:31
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Originally posted by gmac
if the snake is big enough for fluffs then fluffs it is. We have a good few of our hatchies taking fluffs at 4 months old easily
Thanks for confirming. Was starting to think I was doing something wrong. Just need the reassurance. |
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Raycheroo
Hatchling
United Kingdom
102 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 19:09:36
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| they generally say no more than 1.5 times the size of your snakes head....but as i said you should be ok if he hasnt regurged it, you may have a very hungry boy :P |
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3315 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 19:09:43
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17g seems quite little to me to be on fluffs, never mind to consider going up a size... Aphro, my biggest baby is 22g and is still eating large pinkies (2 of them). Although I do tend to be a little overly cautious with my feed sizes.
It is different with every snake though, they don't grow at the same rate so age isn't necessarily a great indicator. After George has eaten a fluff can you see a bulge? If you can still see a bulge, then it isn't time to move up yet.
A corn snake can manage a mouse no more than 1.5 times the width of their widest part. There is quite a large step up from fluffs to smalls, unless you can get hoppers, but even so the size does increase considerably. |
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Welshlamb
Yearling
United Kingdom
711 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 19:14:38
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Originally posted by Moppet
17g seems quite little to me to be on fluffs, never mind to consider going up a size... Aphro, my biggest baby is 22g and is still eating large pinkies (2 of them). Although I do tend to be a little overly cautious with my feed sizes.
It is different with every snake though, they don't grow at the same rate so age isn't necessarily a great indicator. After George has eaten a fluff can you see a bulge? If you can still see a bulge, then it isn't time to move up yet.
A corn snake can manage a mouse no more than 1.5 times the width of their widest part. There is quite a large step up from fluffs to smalls, unless you can get hoppers, but even so the size does increase considerably.
Thanks Moppet. Yes there is a slight lump (so I guess keep at the fluffs until it disappears (this happened really quick with the pinkies?) I was getting really stressed out thinking I'm doing something wrong and tried the Fluffs and he has so far had no problem.
I'm not sure if I have the age right though. I bought him private in September and the sheet they gave me only had two feeds and one shed. Apparently they were born in August |
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5853 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 19:28:11
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Originally posted by Raycheroo
they generally say no more than 1.5 times the size of your snakes head....but as i said you should be ok if he hasnt regurged it, you may have a very hungry boy :P
The size is 1.5 times the widest part of the snakes girth.
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3315 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 19:31:07
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As long as George is happy, you haven't done anything wrong. All snakes grow at different rates and are different shapes too. A long, thin snake may would find it nearly impossible to manage a fluff whereas a chunkier corn of the same weight may have no problem.
Personally I would keep with fluffs until there isn't much of a bulge, then depending on what you are able to get hold of for the next size, try either fuzzy and pinky or double fuzz before going up to smalls. Or if you can get hoppers, you could go from fluffs to hoppers.
He might be 3 months old, snakes growth rates can vary a huge amount. If he hatched in August he may have had two feeds and one shed by September if he fed right after his first shed, which some do. What makes you question his age? Is it his size? Aphrodite, my largest hatchie was 16g at 3 months old, she's a very quick grower too. 
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5853 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 19:31:11
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| As long as your snakes eats, poos and sheds ok and isn't regurging his meal then don't worry. They are no different to any other living creature, in that, they all grow at different rates. Your snake sounds like one of mine....a greedy, hungry, fast growing little devil!! Keep up the good work.... |
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1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
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Welshlamb
Yearling
United Kingdom
711 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 19:33:13
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| Thank you both really appreciate your knowledge and help |
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Welshlamb
Yearling
United Kingdom
711 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 19:35:08
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His first shed was 14/08/12 (with breeder), he has had two sheds with me since. He has had 5 Fluffs and one Fluff and Pinky his first fluff was the 13/10/12.
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Edited by - Welshlamb on 11/11/2012 19:35:34 |
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Raycheroo
Hatchling
United Kingdom
102 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2012 : 19:59:14
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quote:
Originally posted by herriotfan
quote:
Originally posted by Raycheroo
they generally say no more than 1.5 times the size of your snakes head....but as i said you should be ok if he hasnt regurged it, you may have a very hungry boy :P
The size is 1.5 times the widest part of the snakes girth.
Oh yes, sorry...i knew what i meant lol |
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Criminal Nails
Hatchling
Spain
275 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2012 : 10:18:11
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Hell yeah we have the inverse problem I guess! Anyhow, Thorne Walker posted some videos you might want to check, I found them reassuring.
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26969
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Welshlamb
Yearling
United Kingdom
711 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2012 : 13:43:27
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| Just checked out the snake byte video, thanks for pointing that out to me. |
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2012 : 14:54:11
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| Both Frank and Keith moved to fluffs when they were 3 months old and weighing 15g and 16g. They were moved up to hoppers when they were 6 months old and weighing 41g and 39g. They then went to double hoppers at around 8 months old and weighing around the 60g mark before moving straight to medium mice at 9 months old. |
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