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Welshlamb
Yearling
United Kingdom
711 Posts |
 Posted - 23/09/2012 : 09:50:34
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Been puzzling and puzzling myself, on two occassions I have tried feeding George in his new viv. He never seems to take the pinky.
Started thinking he was going to be a problem feeder, so tried putting him in the tub. He took the Pinkie straight away.
Should I move him back into the viv or leave him in a tub for 48 hours (bearing in mind 10 days ago he regurged)
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viraleye
Yearling
United Kingdom
695 Posts |
Posted - 23/09/2012 : 10:03:13
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| Let him get the mouse down into his belly and then put him back in his home. |
1.0.0 Cyrus - Amel het Anery ph Hypo - CURRENTLY AWOL
0.1.0 Diamond - Avalanche ph Charcoal, Hypo
1.0.0 Garland - Bloodred het Hypo
1.0.0 Pinball - Carolina
0.1.0 Casey - Hypo Lavender Stripe het Amel
0.0.1 - No Name Yet - Crested Gecko |
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Simmy_82
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1272 Posts |
Posted - 23/09/2012 : 10:03:24
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| Move back to viv about 5 mins after feeding. If the tub is small enough put it to the viv door and wait til the snake moves back into the viv. It's what I do. |
 
0.1.0 - Cat - Tallulah
0.0.1 - Carolina Corn Snake - Lilith |
Edited by - Simmy_82 on 23/09/2012 10:04:09 |
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5853 Posts |
Posted - 23/09/2012 : 10:26:32
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At least now you know he'll feed if you put him in a tub!
As long as the mouse has gone down to his med body area you can carefully lift him back into his viv. Then leave him 48 hours to digest his meal before handling at all.
Glad he ate for you...  |
Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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Welshlamb
Yearling
United Kingdom
711 Posts |
Posted - 23/09/2012 : 10:29:03
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| Cheers all, really appreciate the help. |
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Welshlamb
Yearling
United Kingdom
711 Posts |
Posted - 23/09/2012 : 10:32:48
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Just noticed that there's hardly a lump from the pinkie. Was thinking about giving another one as have no fuzzies here ?
Fingers crossed he wont regurge like the last time |
Edited by - Welshlamb on 23/09/2012 10:33:53 |
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Simmy_82
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1272 Posts |
Posted - 23/09/2012 : 11:03:10
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| Yeah sounds good. I double fed pinkies until I ran out of pinkies, think I had six left when they started leaving no lump. So fed her for three weeks in double pinks til I bought some fuzzies. |
0.1.0 - Cat - Tallulah
0.0.1 - Carolina Corn Snake - Lilith |
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Auld Baldy
Ikea's Pimp
United Kingdom
1619 Posts |
Posted - 23/09/2012 : 12:51:53
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I feed all my snakes in a tub, even the 6' python.  |
1.0.0: Miami Normal: Taggart
0.0.1: Carolina Normal: Wee Woody
0.0.1: Grey Rat Snake: Mirkey
0.0.1: Amel Corn: Blaze
1.0.0: Carpet Python: Vambo
0.0.1: MBK: Fester
0.0.1: Florida King Snake : Rattler (Rattle & Hum)
0.0.1. California King Snake: El Diablo Diego
0.2.0 Tarantulas : Ermintrude & Euphemia. |
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3315 Posts |
Posted - 23/09/2012 : 16:30:30
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| I feed my snakes in a tub and move them back into the vivs when they've got the mouse down. No problems so far. At least George will eat in a tub |
2.4.0 Corn snakes
1.0.0 horse
0.1.0 Golden retriever
1.4.0 Guinea pigs |
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5853 Posts |
Posted - 23/09/2012 : 17:21:51
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| If you've already moved him back to his viv after the first pinkie I would just leave him. Don't bother with a second pinkie. He'll be fine until he's due for his next feed. |
Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 23/09/2012 : 19:22:54
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If he's had a regurge definitely don't give 2 pinks at a time until he's kept 1 down for a couple of feeds.
Good news that he fed for you - I'm guessing his previous owner must have tub fed rather than viv fed so that is what he's used to? |
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naughtyboy
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
8 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 07:27:30
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| apart from my ratsnake my 7 others eat in tubs my 4 corns wont eat in their vivs. |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 07:40:06
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| Yup I wouldn't feed double this feed or next as he had a regurge. Out of interest how big is george and how big is his viv? |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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Welshlamb
Yearling
United Kingdom
711 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 08:39:33
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He is approx a foot long or a little bit more (have not yet taken exact measurements, as do not want to stress him). The viv is 24"x24". You are probably thinking he is to small for the viv.
Only problem was when he was in the tub he was constantly trying to push his way out, so I thought I'd let him explore
The viv see what happens.
He settled down well (i think), although first time feeding he regurgitated in his viv. This time I left the pinkie on tissue but he just stayed on his rope and spent time under his mat. As soon as he went into the tub he took the pinkie (maybe he was to small to realise the pinkie was there? Or the space is to big and there's to many distractions?)
Would be interesting though to see what you think? |
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scorpyshake
Egg
United Kingdom
87 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 09:57:28
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Originally posted by herriotfan
At least now you know he'll feed if you put him in a tub!
As long as the mouse has gone down to his med body area you can carefully lift him back into his viv. Then leave him 48 hours to digest his meal before handling at all.
Glad he ate for you...
That's something that has always confused me lol, handling after feeding...as I'm a newish snake keeper, I've always put mine back into the rub to feed after handling, so to briefly pick up after feeding to place back into rub is ok ? that may make life a bit easier :) |
0.0.1 Amel
0.0.1 Snow
1.1.0 Bloodred/diffussed
1.0.0 English Mastiff x Rottweiller |
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scorpyshake
Egg
United Kingdom
87 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 10:06:04
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Originally posted by Welshlamb
He is approx a foot long or a little bit more (have not yet taken exact measurements, as do not want to stress him). The viv is 24"x24". You are probably thinking he is to small for the viv.
Only problem was when he was in the tub he was constantly trying to push his way out, so I thought I'd let him explore
The viv see what happens.
He settled down well (i think), although first time feeding he regurgitated in his viv. This time I left the pinkie on tissue but he just stayed on his rope and spent time under his mat. As soon as he went into the tub he took the pinkie (maybe he was to small to realise the pinkie was there? Or the space is to big and there's to many distractions?)
Would be interesting though to see what you think?
Some may thing the viv is too big for your snake ? but I can see where your coming from, I had a month old baby in a rub that someone seemed to think was too big, however both of the babies were very happy with the extra space, I think its all down to the snake at the end of the day, mine were very confident and happy, they loved exploring loads in their rubs, but I did provide plenty of hides of fake plants too.
As your snake is only about a foot long, please make sure that they cannot squeeze through the gap between the glass doors, I only read yesterday on a fb group of someone losing 2 young snakes that were co-habitating in a viv, That is the reason I still have mine in rubs at the moment, although they are due for an upgrade soon :) |
0.0.1 Amel
0.0.1 Snow
1.1.0 Bloodred/diffussed
1.0.0 English Mastiff x Rottweiller |
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Welshlamb
Yearling
United Kingdom
711 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 17:37:02
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Originally posted by scorpyshake
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Originally posted by Welshlamb
He is approx a foot long or a little bit more (have not yet taken exact measurements, as do not want to stress him). The viv is 24"x24". You are probably thinking he is to small for the viv.
Only problem was when he was in the tub he was constantly trying to push his way out, so I thought I'd let him explore
The viv see what happens.
He settled down well (i think), although first time feeding he regurgitated in his viv. This time I left the pinkie on tissue but he just stayed on his rope and spent time under his mat. As soon as he went into the tub he took the pinkie (maybe he was to small to realise the pinkie was there? Or the space is to big and there's to many distractions?)
Would be interesting though to see what you think?
Some may thing the viv is too big for your snake ? but I can see where your coming from, I had a month old baby in a rub that someone seemed to think was too big, however both of the babies were very happy with the extra space, I think its all down to the snake at the end of the day, mine were very confident and happy, they loved exploring loads in their rubs, but I did provide plenty of hides of fake plants too.
As your snake is only about a foot long, please make sure that they cannot squeeze through the gap between the glass doors, I only read yesterday on a fb group of someone losing 2 young snakes that were co-habitating in a viv, That is the reason I still have mine in rubs at the moment, although they are due for an upgrade soon :)
Thanks for the reassurance. I have put a a4 spine cut to size in the gap to prevent escapes. No problem so far, touch wood. |
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5853 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 20:54:30
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Originally posted by scorpyshake
quote:
Originally posted by herriotfan
At least now you know he'll feed if you put him in a tub!
As long as the mouse has gone down to his med body area you can carefully lift him back into his viv. Then leave him 48 hours to digest his meal before handling at all.
Glad he ate for you...
That's something that has always confused me lol, handling after feeding...as I'm a newish snake keeper, I've always put mine back into the rub to feed after handling, so to briefly pick up after feeding to place back into rub is ok ? that may make life a bit easier :)
It's fine just to carefully lift a snake back to it's viv after feeding. Then leave for 48 hours. I know it can be confusing....I had to ask for clarity with my first snake!
If you're not sure about anything please ask. |
Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5853 Posts |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 20:58:18
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| Welshlamb, some snakes really can't cope with the space in a viv to start with but as long as yours is happy, and you've made sure he has lots of places to hide, then a viv is ok. |
Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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Welshlamb
Yearling
United Kingdom
711 Posts |
Posted - 25/09/2012 : 11:42:32
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Originally posted by herriotfan
Welshlamb, some snakes really can't cope with the space in a viv to start with but as long as yours is happy, and you've made sure he has lots of places to hide, then a viv is ok.
Thanks for the help. Well I'm chuffed to pieces today no regurge since his feed and the little fella has been spending time relaxing on his rope. I'm sure he's getting more confident in his surroundings.
Thank you all for the reassurance and help
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Jayclk
Hatchling
United Kingdom
222 Posts |
Posted - 17/10/2012 : 11:44:35
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| Hi sorry new to snake keeping why do people feed the snake in rubs ? Is it just for snake confidence ? |
0.0.1 Corn (Pebble)
0.0.1 Corn (Pecan)
0.0.1 Corn (Peaches)
1.0.0 Corn/Rat (Paco)
0.1.0 BCI (Penny)
0.0.1 Normal royal (Reagan)
1.0.0 Crested Gecko (Gizmo)
0.1.0 Westie - (scooby)
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