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skphew2
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
21 Posts

Posted - 29/08/2012 :  10:09:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I apologise in advance as I am new to all this (sankes and certainly morphs), if this is a stupid question.

My local reptile shop has some blood red hatchlings, I trust them implicitly (their advise has been amazing) but out of interest how can I tell that the hatchlings are blood reds. Its just to satisfy my own interest really.

Is there any obivous signs? or is it a parent thing?

Sorry for the stupid question.

Cheers Sean

paulie78
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2331 Posts

Posted - 29/08/2012 :  10:13:51  Show Profile  Visit paulie78's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Have a look on ians vivarium (morph guide,corn snakes) compare the pictures bloodreds will have diffused bellys not chequers thats a bit of a giveaway so be sure to look at the ventral scales


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skphew2
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
21 Posts

Posted - 29/08/2012 :  10:30:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheers I see the difference now.

Excellent site, makes me want other morphs now tho LOL

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Freddiesmum
Sub Adult

1083 Posts

Posted - 29/08/2012 :  11:11:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you plan on only getting one snake, be prepared to end up with more!! Very addictive haha

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NexivRed
Yearling

United Kingdom
551 Posts

Posted - 29/08/2012 :  11:18:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think you should ask them to be a little more specific as to whether these snakes are just diffused, or whether they're selectively bred diffused that will have a good chance of ending up a blood red colour. Most bloodred normals (when bloodred is used as the old term for meaning diffused) will end up more orange than red.

Have a look at the wide range of colours here to see what "bloodreds" can turn out like: http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/elaphe_guttata/diffused/?sid=621d153c344686d22fad15d8f8758ce3

R.I.P. 0.1: CB10 Ophion - pewter masque het amel
1.0: CB10 lavender stripe het ??? - Alabaster (Bats) Codify
0.1: CB12 hypo plasma het amel - Nebula
0.2: CB13 diffused 66% pos het cinder - Demeter (Mimi) & Bombulurina (Reenie)
1.0: CB13 hypo cinder ?% pos het amel stripe - Huckleberry
0.1: CB13 anery aztec het amel - Tetris
1.0: CB13 gold dust motley stripe - Helios
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3315 Posts

Posted - 29/08/2012 :  17:02:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with NexivRed. Bloodred is a term which can be used for a diffused snake but many people think it should be used only to describe a snake which will become a dark red colour as an adult.
There isn't really a way to tell that a bloodred hatchling will end up bloodred rather than diffused. Other than asking about lineage etc and taking an educated guess based on that.

There isn't such a thing as a stupid question on here

Looking at ians viv is always dangerous for me. I started with one corn snake and now I have two and two more reserved! I keep finding more beautiful colours and patterns and want to collect them all! haha.

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skphew2
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
21 Posts

Posted - 29/08/2012 :  17:23:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Either way blood red or diffused we like the look of both :D

Told the missus about some other morphs, we only planned to get one. Haha looks like reptiles and fish will fill our new home hehe
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viraleye
Yearling

United Kingdom
695 Posts

Posted - 29/08/2012 :  19:28:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I believe with a bloodred the grey pretty much patternless head is a good marker for bloodred. Obviously the diffused ventral too :-)

Here is a progression thread of my Bloodred

www.iansvivarium.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=8391

And here is someone else's from America I'm watching carefully;

www.iansvivarium.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=8014

1.0.0 Cyrus - Amel het Anery ph Hypo - CURRENTLY AWOL
0.1.0 Diamond - Avalanche ph Charcoal, Hypo
1.0.0 Garland - Bloodred het Hypo
1.0.0 Pinball - Carolina
0.1.0 Casey - Hypo Lavender Stripe het Amel
0.0.1 - No Name Yet - Crested Gecko

Edited by - viraleye on 29/08/2012 19:30:21
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 29/08/2012 :  19:45:05  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
...and one of my favourites (Poppycorns Wild Cherry)



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viraleye
Yearling

United Kingdom
695 Posts

Posted - 29/08/2012 :  20:25:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it possible to tell from a hatching what it should look like as an adult if you haven't seen the pairings or is It just a wait and see??

1.0.0 Cyrus - Amel het Anery ph Hypo - CURRENTLY AWOL
0.1.0 Diamond - Avalanche ph Charcoal, Hypo
1.0.0 Garland - Bloodred het Hypo
1.0.0 Pinball - Carolina
0.1.0 Casey - Hypo Lavender Stripe het Amel
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oakleyman18
Yearling

828 Posts

Posted - 29/08/2012 :  20:35:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
THANK YOU Eeji! Everyone, this is a proper Bloodred!!



Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst"
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Thorne Walker
Yearling

Canada
642 Posts

Posted - 29/08/2012 :  20:42:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eeji

...and one of my favourites (Poppycorns Wild Cherry)



Oh Wow! Nice depth of colour!

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Razee
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2525 Posts

Posted - 29/08/2012 :  20:48:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, that's a good colour, real old fashioned bloodred.

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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 29/08/2012 :  21:07:30  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i would cheerfully kill to own that particular animal! :D


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skphew2
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
21 Posts

Posted - 29/08/2012 :  21:52:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow what a example

Major want
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3315 Posts

Posted - 30/08/2012 :  07:13:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, now that is a stunning snake. A proper bloodred

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danny
Hatchling

United Kingdom
369 Posts

Posted - 30/08/2012 :  11:24:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Indeed blood reds should be only red and a very deep red beutifull snake. Some of the pictures of bloodreds on here I would not class as a bloodred .

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Freddiesmum
Sub Adult

1083 Posts

Posted - 30/08/2012 :  11:44:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Eeji that bloodred is just AMAZING!!! I sooo want one, then i can call it Dexter hehe

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