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Scott-P
Snake Mite

38 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  23:07:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Well today is finally the day... Esfa has just finally moved from a rub to her 3ft vivarium. I have posted several topics about vivs and advice.

However, what I want to ask this time is....

Have I gone too far? Maybe too much decor and over done it? I just don't think I'm ever going to see her again lol

Basically just after your opinions, good or bad on this as a corn snake vivarium, I won't be offended.

Thanks






Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  23:09:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you can never have too much decor , looks really good. you should have a gaurd over that tube light. otherwise looking rally good x

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  09:53:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow that looks fab!! I agree she'll find it easy to hide - and to grip onto stuff to prevent you getting her out lol, but she'll love it :p

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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3065 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  10:36:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
looks really good



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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5292 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  10:45:12  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
fab :D

1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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coxymk2
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1245 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  11:02:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking good

0.0.1 ANERY (Liquorice)
0.0.1 CAROLINA (Bangle)
0.0.1 AMEL (Boozer)
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3556 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  11:23:25  Show Profile  Click to see kdlang's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think it looks brilliant. There is not too much on the ground that you are going to have a hard job finding poops etc (unless he does them up in the greenery lol) but enough for him to feel safe. He will have great fun climbing and exploring.

4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire

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Andrea49
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
44 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  12:31:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seeing a viv like that makes me want to be your snakey!

1.0 'Normal' corn - Kelloggs
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Lozzy
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1556 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  13:23:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
your viv looks brilliant! if i showed my two they would be green with envy! well done! :)



0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  15:23:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That looks really good, I'm sure your snake will love being in there :)

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family
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a2c7
Hatchling

United Kingdom
320 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  19:09:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks amazing - since giving my snakes more places to 'hide' I actually see them more often. They 'hide' in the foliage more as they travel around places, they think they're hidden in the 'cave' I made for them. My OH is very good at placing decor so that we can see into it from the outside, but it still provides plenty of cover for the snakes.

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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3215 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  19:14:22  Show Profile  Click to see Donnie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Looks great

1.1 Corns (Anery Stripe, Amel) 1.0 Rootbeer 0.2 Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 Zebra Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 50% Diamond Zebra Carpet Python
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Thorne Walker
Yearling

Canada
642 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  19:56:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Only a few criticisms/points:

1) The Cork bark is your 'cold' hide? I'd shift it further away from the 'hot' hide and maybe shade it with some of the greenery. (edit: I see the coconut hiding back there.. sneeky lol )

2) I see a lamp over the 'Hot' hide is there a mat under it?

Otherwise it looks great!

1.0.0 CB'11 Volcano Corn 'Kitty'
0.0.1 CB'11 Russian Rat Snake 'Monster'
2.0.0 CB'04 Roof Rabbits 'Baka Neko-San' and 'Usagi Neko-San'

My Setup :http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27228
The Kids: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26248

Edited by - Thorne Walker on 11/07/2012 19:58:11
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Hissyfit
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2214 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  20:14:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It looks great! I really like the climbing ropes, bet she'll love her new home

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Corrah
Hatchling

United Kingdom
154 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  20:15:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That looks fantastic. I definately need more decor in mine.

C x

1.1.3 Corn Snakes (Altivo, Millie, Peggy, Al & Fraggle)
2.1.0 Cats (Merlin, Floyd & Poppy)
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Scott-P
Snake Mite

38 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  20:34:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Thanks for the replies.. Glad that you all like it. Esfa seems to be enjoying it so far exploring the branches and leaves.

I must admit from a comment made earlier, I really didn't consider it for when she went to the toilet and trying to find it, but the branches and rope is removable anyway. Just might take a bit of hunting.

Thorne walker - I have decided just to heat just by the bulb. I was considering a heat mat as well but have been assured by several people and my local reptile shop, that it is not needed and the light is just as good. As the bulb is infared it can be used day or night and it is also connected to a dimming stat.

Georgina - I wasn't aware I could buy a guard to fit the tube? I have tried looking on eBay and posted a topic on here asking but nothing came of it... Any advice would be appreciated though
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NaomiR
Hatchling

United Kingdom
176 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  21:01:40  Show Profile  Visit NaomiR's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think it's BRILLIANT it looks just fantastic your snake is going to LOVE it!!

0.1 Motley (Henrietta) 0.1 Amel (Fiver) 0.1 Anery Stripe (Bronte)
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Thorne Walker
Yearling

Canada
642 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  21:10:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Scott

Not that I want to start an argument but I'd have to say the opposite re: the bulb. Most of the opinions I've seen expressed state that a corn needs belly heat and that a mat is the go to solution. I.e: both the setup stickies recommend a mat:
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9878
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4133

Do you have a thermometer probe under the hide? if so what is the temp?

You can make a guard out of 'chicken wire' for the lamp.. Should be a couple of bucks at any hardware store.

edit: added links

1.0.0 CB'11 Volcano Corn 'Kitty'
0.0.1 CB'11 Russian Rat Snake 'Monster'
2.0.0 CB'04 Roof Rabbits 'Baka Neko-San' and 'Usagi Neko-San'

My Setup :http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27228
The Kids: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26248

Edited by - Thorne Walker on 11/07/2012 21:31:21
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Scott-P
Snake Mite

38 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  21:36:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll check the probe when I get home, I was concerned about using a light so have put about 5 thermometers all over the viv to check for the first few days to try and make sure all the temps are correct, one of them being under the hide.

The reptile shop near me recommended the viv, the heating and the lighting.. I wanted something permanent that looked nice. I had heard horror stories about undigested food in corns because they need belly heat, therefore I was dubious of this light. I researched it and made many phone calls to different shops and all assured me it would be fine.. One explaining it that when in the wild, the snake would get heat from the sun and the same principle applying. I have a probe on the floor stating 28 degrees, which would be the same as heated with a mat?

I'm not going to start a debate or an argument as I am not experienced enough, I am just following advice given to me from reptile shops, members on here from when I asked questions and also things on the Internet. I am just following advice given.. Which is the best I can do
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Thorne Walker
Yearling

Canada
642 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  22:02:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Scott-P

One explaining it that when in the wild, the snake would get heat from the sun and the same principle applying. I have a probe on the floor stating 28 degrees, which would be the same as heated with a mat?

I'm not going to start a debate or an argument as I am not experienced enough, I am just following advice given to me from reptile shops, members on here from when I asked questions and also things on the Internet. I am just following advice given.. Which is the best I can do



No arguments from me just an addendum. The sun will also warm the 'thing' the snake was sitting on so you get Belly Heat and Direct Radiation in that 'snakes in nature' argument.

Given that I've been keeping snakes for oh... 10 months or so.. i'm not going to make any claims about my expertise, I'm doing the same as you.

1.0.0 CB'11 Volcano Corn 'Kitty'
0.0.1 CB'11 Russian Rat Snake 'Monster'
2.0.0 CB'04 Roof Rabbits 'Baka Neko-San' and 'Usagi Neko-San'

My Setup :http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27228
The Kids: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26248
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Scott-P
Snake Mite

38 Posts

Posted - 11/07/2012 :  22:03:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thorne Walker

Scott

Not that I want to start an argument but I'd have to say the opposite re: the bulb. Most of the opinions I've seen expressed state that a corn needs belly heat and that a mat is the go to solution. I.e: both the setup stickies recommend a mat:
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9878
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4133

Do you have a thermometer probe under the hide? if so what is the temp?

You can make a guard out of 'chicken wire' for the lamp.. Should be a couple of bucks at any hardware store.

edit: added links



I don't mean to be rude as I do appreciate that people do have doubts on using lights.. But in your 2 links.. It doesn't actually say they shouldn't be used. I've just read them and it states the a mat is the most commonly used and the other link is to a plastic faunarium, one of which I used to set up my rub.. They don't actually say it is harmful to use a bulb.

I have now become unsure about the viv and I am contemplating putting her back into her rub until I am sure what is the best thing to do
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