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Matt Waters
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
49 Posts |
 Posted - 20/06/2012 : 21:17:57
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Hi all I'm new to all this so forgive me in advance ;-)
Having owned my first snake for 3 days now I'm already after another :-D
(wife says no but that won't stop me)
I love the blood reds
Im led to believe that the stronger the particular genes are that are necessary to produce this morph
The more uniform the colour becomes to the point there's barely any markings
But when looking for my next snake I will be lookin for a 6 month old probably and I know at an early age they have the markings still and these fade over time
I suppose my question is, at this early stage is it possible to tell weather the snake will turn into a very good example of a blood red?
Also a seperate question but what does cb stand for in terms of age e.g cb11? |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2012 : 21:26:26
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Cb means captive breed and year 2011
And this is my bloodred yearling
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0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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Matt Waters
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
49 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2012 : 21:33:19
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Lol so obvious. What a newb :-/
Very nice, do you have any indication weather he/she will become very uniform or particularly deep in colour from this early age or is it just a case of best guess?? |
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oakleyman18
Yearling
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Posted - 20/06/2012 : 21:37:53
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Hi Matt,
Unfortunately 95% of "Bloodreds" you see on the market will never look like the ones you see on places like "ians Vivarium". I suggest you check that page to see what a proper Bloordred looks like. Unfortunately "Bloodred" has lost its meaning while people scramble to try and relate their diffused's (that's what Bloodreds are) to Bloodreds. There are still some stunning examples to be found, but your best bet is to look at the parents and decide if you think they are of good enough quality to be called as such. |
Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst" |
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Matt Waters
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
49 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2012 : 21:47:04
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Cheers Oakley
The one on Ian's is exactly what I'm thinking of
So I guess other than buying an older snake that has already developed its kind of luck of the draw without seeing the parents |
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paulie78
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2331 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2012 : 21:50:33
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| Bloodreds are just selectively bred diffused arent they ? i think as oakelyman says your best bets to find a nice hatchling based on how the parents look as how they look as hatchlings/yearlings is really no reflection of how they will end up |
6.8.0 Corn Snakes http://buzzsprehistoricpets.yolasite.com/
1.1.0 Royal
0.2.0 Chinchillas
1.1.0 Cats
1.1.0 Birds
0.0.2 Fishtanks
0.0.1 Cali Kingsnake
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Figs
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3319 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2012 : 22:36:18
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For an almost solid red snake, you could try looking at diffused stripes rather than normal patterned?
With stripes there is less pattern to fade in the first place lol 
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Matt Waters
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
49 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2012 : 22:45:23
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Cheers figs that was gonna be my next question lol
They say there's no such thing as a stupid question but I hate being the newbie and having to ask them lol |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2012 : 23:10:01
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| There isnt a stupid question. Ur asking summin u dont know. If u asked if u can feed a snake a lettuce coz u dont like the thought of feeding a mouse then yeah stupid. But ive asked some questions but u ask coz u wanna find out |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 20/06/2012 : 23:25:56
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| I got my scarlet and samson from doogle and everyone recommended him. I questioned samson being a bloodred but after talking to doogle and eeji on here and being told he knows what hes selling i found out he is a miami bloodred. And these are only just being hatched in america. And scarlet looks a spit of her mother so as she grows she be as stunning as her.so id recommend talking to doogle as he has got some stunning hatchies at the mo. And u never know he may have some bloods hatching. U no what they say u wanna no what their gonna look like check out the mother.... |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3556 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2012 : 00:03:23
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| When you do eeji please let me know. I have been put off bloodreds a bit by the amount of people selling diffused as bloods. When I get one i want as good a blood as I can get so if you are going to produce them then I am in lol |
4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire
www.support-dogs.org.uk |
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mkmattyk
banned
United Kingdom
837 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2012 : 08:04:00
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Heres my bloodred ........ its a pretty old pic, his patterns have faded quite abit now
Then heres my diffused het pied thats gone missing
Sorry if there big pics still havent got the hang of resizing on photobucket
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2012 : 10:37:49
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| Sorry to hear ur diffused het pied has gone missing. Stunning. Pics hope u find him soon |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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Matt Waters
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
49 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2012 : 13:56:12
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Thanks everyone il take it all on board :-)
I think I'm going to wait until iv had my firs for a couple of months at least so iv got time to reaserch and source a breeder
Can't wait tho ;-)
Out of interest tho, what would a lavender and a bloodred produce? U never know, I might end up trying to breed but that really is a distant idea lol
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3556 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2012 : 14:16:30
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| Unless they have matching hets (hidden recessive genes) then you would get normals het lavender and diffused. |
4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire
www.support-dogs.org.uk |
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mkmattyk
banned
United Kingdom
837 Posts |
Posted - 21/06/2012 : 15:48:03
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| eeji is my mario a "old school" bloodred???? ill get a newer pic up but that must be 3/4 months ago, his patterns have nearly gone and hes developing a yellow line down his side |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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Perfect blood red???
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