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tommy
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
40 Posts |
 Posted - 06/06/2012 : 22:55:03
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i know its recommended to feed in a RUB for example, but does anyone just feed in the vivarium? i have aspen for substrate in my faunarium and was wondering what you guys think.
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paulie78
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2331 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 23:08:38
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| Id avoid it wherever possible for fear of the snake ingesting the substrate most snakes will happily eat in a rub its the safest way to feed your snake obviously if you have a shy feeder then thats different and you do what u gotta do but given a choice ill always feed my lot in rubs |
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1.1.0 Royal
0.2.0 Chinchillas
1.1.0 Cats
1.1.0 Birds
0.0.2 Fishtanks
0.0.1 Cali Kingsnake
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jamesogt
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
38 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 23:24:55
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I do find this a little confusing.
If they can digest a whole mouse, bones and all how can a small piece of aspen be so dangerous?
Surely in the wild not all their food can be debris free. I can see it being something to avoid, but surely it isn't life threatening. |
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Callazagy
Yearling
United Kingdom
506 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 23:39:59
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Personally I feed all of mine in thier vivs, I do usually keep an eye on them but as yet ive had no problem. Most of them instantly strike and coil so the mouse doesn't come in contact with the substrate, if I have to leave the mouse in with them I will put it on a hide or something so it doesnt come into contact with the substrate. Some of mine have beech chip substrate which poses no problems at all, I find aspen bedding does tend to stick to pinks but not really on anything with fur.
Chris |
* 2.1 Corn Snakes (Arthas - Normal, Tilion - Anery Lav, Yavanna - Stripe) * 1.1 Cape House Snake (Jenson & Ginetta) * 1.0 Carpet Python (Irian Jaya Jag - Grantly) *
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* 1.0 Western Hognose (Hamilton) * 1.0 Apricot Pueblan Milk Snake (Tweek) * 0.0.2 Common Musk Turtles (Erin & Ira) *
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paulie78
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2331 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 23:45:19
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| Its more of a risk for the lil hatchlings and suchlike it can cause an impaction its not digested like the mouse would be and wouldnt you rather be safe than sorry i know i would |
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1.1.0 Royal
0.2.0 Chinchillas
1.1.0 Cats
1.1.0 Birds
0.0.2 Fishtanks
0.0.1 Cali Kingsnake
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QueenVic
Yearling
United Kingdom
849 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 23:51:39
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quote:
Originally posted by Callazagy
Personally I feed all of mine in thier vivs, I do usually keep an eye on them but as yet ive had no problem. Most of them instantly strike and coil so the mouse doesn't come in contact with the substrate, if I have to leave the mouse in with them I will put it on a hide or something so it doesnt come into contact with the substrate. Some of mine have beech chip substrate which poses no problems at all, I find aspen bedding does tend to stick to pinks but not really on anything with fur.
Chris
I was about to post but id have said pretty much exactly the same as this..
still, aspen may be worse than beech chip for sticking to the mice, i dont know. |
0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)
2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)
Location: Ossett
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danny
Hatchling
United Kingdom
369 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 01:07:03
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| I allso feed in viv just keep a eye. |
1x staffy-Roxy
I x iguana-zilla
Several tessera corns
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QueenVic
Yearling
United Kingdom
849 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 01:24:21
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Let us know how it goes :)
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0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)
2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)
Location: Ossett
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nickyff
Yearling
507 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 01:43:10
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the ingestion of substrate problem is because it's cellular fibre, which snakes' digestion systems are not designed for.
i have a king snake that absolutely refuses to eat in a rub, and will only eat in her viv. being a king she tends to drag the mouse around for ten minutes before eating, so the sticky substrate problem is quite major- I've found that after defrosting,(which I do in warm water) if I dry the mouse thoroughly by rubbing it in kitchen roll, like you would after as if it had had a bath, but without using talcum powder afterwards  , then its usually dry enough that no aspen sticks to it, however much she drags it around.
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and you thought there was no such thing as a stupid question....
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chrisc
Hatchling
United Kingdom
357 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 06:06:32
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i used to feed in a rub but now feed all of mine in the viv as its easier i defrost in water then completly dry the rats off with a hair dryer so theres less chance of any aspen getting stuck/ingested.
a few little bits of aspen wont cause any problems although my rat snake did get a bit stuck in his top jaw an caused a bit of mouth rot but that was bad luck an a very slim chance of it happening again.
with my little hognose i put his pinkys on one of his cardboard hides an he eats off of there |
1.0.0 baird's rat snake, jeff 1.0.0 royal, derek 1.0.0 royal, frank 0.1.0 dog jenny 1.0.0 bull snake, ivan 0.1.0 bull snake, mavis 0.1.0 chilean rose, Bernadette 1.0.0 hognose, chuck 1.0.0 BCI, william
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to live is so startling it leaves little time for anything else |
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cobweb251
Hatchling
United Kingdom
435 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 09:20:31
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| i feed mine in a rub and not in the viv. I use beech chips and the chances of one of them going with the mouse is not very likely but they can get aggressive of their viv if being fed there. not a problem when they are small... |
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Dalymad2
Hatchling
United Kingdom
301 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 10:15:51
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| If i do feed in the viv I clear a space for the mouse, but normaly feed in a rub. |
1.0.0 CORN- FRED ( CAROLINA)
1.0.0 CORN- BARNEY (CAROLINA)
0.1.0 CORN- SNOWDROP (SNOW)
1.0.0 DALMATIAN- SOLO
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0.1.0 CAT-SOOKIE
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Sleeper341
Hatchling
United Kingdom
124 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 10:22:11
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Noob question alert!!!!!!
If you feed outside the Viv (eg in a rub) do you return your snakeys back to the viv immediately after they've eaten as I keep reading you shouldn't handle them for a couple of days after a feed. I pressume it's ok once they've eaten to pick them up and put them back in the viv then leave them for a couple of days?
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1.1.0 cats (Lavender and Bertie)
1.1.0 Corns (Cyrus, Pewter and Daenerys, Caramel)
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Dalymad2
Hatchling
United Kingdom
301 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 10:37:11
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Just wait until the lump has moved down a little way then gently return to the viv and all should be good.
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1.0.0 CORN- FRED ( CAROLINA)
1.0.0 CORN- BARNEY (CAROLINA)
0.1.0 CORN- SNOWDROP (SNOW)
1.0.0 DALMATIAN- SOLO
0.1.0 DALMATIAN- METOO
0.1.0 COLLIE CROSS- LILY
0.1.0 CAT-SOOKIE
0.1.0 AFRICAN GREY PARROT- SPIRIT |
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chrisc
Hatchling
United Kingdom
357 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 14:30:42
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when i used to feed in a rub i would then tip a corner towards the viv door an let them crawl back in.
ive not had any of my snakes be agressive when i go in their viv without food |
1.0.0 baird's rat snake, jeff 1.0.0 royal, derek 1.0.0 royal, frank 0.1.0 dog jenny 1.0.0 bull snake, ivan 0.1.0 bull snake, mavis 0.1.0 chilean rose, Bernadette 1.0.0 hognose, chuck 1.0.0 BCI, william
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to live is so startling it leaves little time for anything else |
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cobweb251
Hatchling
United Kingdom
435 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 15:19:24
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| i wait until the lump has moved down and then just let them slither out of the rub into their viv |
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault
United Kingdom
8403 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 16:34:54
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0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
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lupi lou
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3670 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 16:55:32
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| i viv feed, but mine are also on cage carpet at the minuet so no chance of digesting substrate. i feed using tongs so that my hand isn't associated with food. |
 
1.0.1 Corns
0.1.0 Dog: springer
1.0.0 Horse
0.4.0 Gerbils
2.2.0 Leopard gecko
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 18:13:46
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| i used to put a 12inch square peice of perspex in the viv and put the mouse on that for one of my snakes that would only eat in his viv |
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sammicat300
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
14 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 19:21:20
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I started feeding my old snake in the viv as her previous owners told me to do so and then she became viv' defensive so I'd say feed in a RUB  |
1 Bearded dragon, Bert.
R.I.P Medusa. |
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QueenVic
Yearling
United Kingdom
849 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2012 : 19:51:19
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quote:
Originally posted by cobweb251
i feed mine in a rub and not in the viv. I use beech chips and the chances of one of them going with the mouse is not very likely but they can get aggressive of their viv if being fed there. not a problem when they are small...
Cant say mine have ever been aggressive.. then again i guess it comes down to each individual corn snake.
I think if you use tweezers they don't associate your hand with food.
I don't like the idea of using a RUB just cause they need to be put back into the viv after. And for convenience Id much rather just keep them in the viv. Obviously keeping an eye on them, but as long as the mouse is dry i cant see there being any problems. |
0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)
2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)
Location: Ossett
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feeding on aspen?
