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bentonan
Snake Mite
USA
9 Posts |
 Posted - 05/06/2012 : 20:38:04
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| My male amel corn snake has been perfectly healthy ever since I purchased him last year. I have not had any issues with eating and he has been an amazing breeder! Not until recently have I been noticing some issues. Nothing has changed with his feeding or habitat, so I am not sure what the cause could be. He has been regurgitating his rats. They are slightly smaller than what he should be eating, so I do not think size is a factor. He hasn't kept down the last 3 rats, and hasn't actually fully eaten anything for a full month. He is extremely skinny and I occasionally walk out to check on him and find him just lying there with his mouth cracked. He is only a few years old, so I doubt age is playing a key factor in this. Any ideas?! Please please help me with this snake! |
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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3215 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2012 : 21:08:00
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| Any stats about your snake, size weight etc will be helpfull and details of your setup as well please. |
1.1 Corns (Anery Stripe, Amel) 1.0 Rootbeer 0.2 Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 Zebra Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 50% Diamond Zebra Carpet Python |
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bentonan
Snake Mite
USA
9 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2012 : 21:14:13
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| Oh yes! Of course! He's a breeder, so he is in a tub with mulch and a water bowl. He is a male amel that weighs about 170 grams and is close to 2 feet long. Anything else |
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5292 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2012 : 21:16:30
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| well that could be your probs, hes too young and small to be a breeder. what his temps like? he needs hides, dont think mulch is the best thing to use as substrate |
1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3215 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2012 : 21:22:25
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| At that age and size he should be on mice really not rats. Are you feeding him frozen/thawed? |
1.1 Corns (Anery Stripe, Amel) 1.0 Rootbeer 0.2 Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 Zebra Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 50% Diamond Zebra Carpet Python |
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bentonan
Snake Mite
USA
9 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2012 : 21:29:14
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| He was a breeder when I got him...has not produced anything for me since I purchased him. He eats rat pups with their eyes barely peeped, and they usually are live. The last two times they were not live and he still regurgitated. |
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bentonan
Snake Mite
USA
9 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2012 : 21:30:03
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| And the last time he was bred with anything was last year. He didn't start acting up until this last month, so I do not believe the breeding would effect him now |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2012 : 21:31:39
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some times they can regurge and then if you feed too soon after they will regurge again, you should leave atleast 10 days between regurges, as he has had 3 i would leave at leat 14 days. with only waterchanges. there are a few threads on her on what we believe to be the correct set up
plenty of hides
a dry type bedding (not pine based)
a good size water bowl
hot end temos of 27-29
we normally feed mice not rats to corns as it can cause them to get over weight due to rats being different
he is defo too little to be a breeder and if you are putting him wiht a female this could be causeing a lot of stress.
how long did you leave between regurge and the next feed? |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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bentonan
Snake Mite
USA
9 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2012 : 21:43:05
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| The gap in between the two feedings was 10 days |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2012 : 21:47:19
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has the gap been 10 days between all three regurges?
what are your temps like? |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2012 : 21:48:36
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| Rat pups havent got the correct amount of vitamins that a growing corn need. They are low in protein but high fat. Its like eating a half heathly meal. Ur better of with small or if he can take the medium mice. I think u have personally been sold as a breeder to bump up the value a bit more. |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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bentonan
Snake Mite
USA
9 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2012 : 21:56:21
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| Yes...the gap in between both has been 10 days. I will try feeding him next time with a small mouse and see if that helps. |
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2012 : 22:00:16
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| i'd try a small mouse next feed and see if he keeps it down. hopefully he will, then just build him up with smalls then mediums |
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2012 : 22:01:14
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| sorry didn't see you allready decided that |
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bentonan
Snake Mite
USA
9 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2012 : 22:07:41
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Thanks for all the help, but sadly, he did not make it. I just went to check on him again and he was dead. He was still alive 10 minutes ago, but I guess I was too late. It is truly heart breaking for me and I appreciate everything. Have a good afternoon  |
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QueenVic
Yearling
United Kingdom
849 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 01:40:01
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Sorry to hear that, I bet you are gutted :(
Hides are essential in a corn set up though, and perhaps he regurgitated because he felt unsafe digesting out in the open?
Just a thought for if you do have other snakes. |
0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)
2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)
Location: Ossett
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bentonan
Snake Mite
USA
9 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 01:54:48
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| Ya. That is a huge possibility. I think stress played a key role too because we are in the process of moving. My little baby is in a better place now |
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QueenVic
Yearling
United Kingdom
849 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 02:14:32
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| Again very sorry to hear it. Hope you get moved okay and what not. |
0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)
2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)
Location: Ossett
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bentonan
Snake Mite
USA
9 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 03:13:31
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| Thanks so much! |
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5292 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 08:54:50
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| oh dear! RIP little one |
1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 10:39:42
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| sorry to hear that |
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