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Adsclarke
Hatchling
United Kingdom
259 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 11:41:52
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#1252 Hypo Opal het Stripe X Opal
This one has hatched and as expected, we got a pile of Opals :)
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Adsclarke
Hatchling
United Kingdom
259 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 11:44:47
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#1206 Amel het Cinder Lava X het Amel Cinder Lava
We were very excited about this clutch to see if we could get another Lava Cinder but also to see if there is a noticable difference in Amel Cinder and Lavamel Cinder.
We got one Lava Cinder, a few Amel Cinder and what I believe to be a Lavamel Cinder.. Probably only breeding trials will tell though on the last one.
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Adsclarke
Hatchling
United Kingdom
259 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 11:47:11
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#1227 Diffused Pied het Amel Hypo ph Anery Motley X Granite het Charcoal Hypo ph Amel Pied.
Well, it looks like we have proved the female Granite to be het Pied! There is only one Pied in the clutch and it is medium expression. Great result to find out though! Everything that hatched is 100% het Pied too.
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Adsclarke
Hatchling
United Kingdom
259 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 11:51:06
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#1211 Anery het Amel Diffused Hypo Motley X Same
This is an interesting story.. The original parents for this clutch are a Snow Motley female that we have had for years and a Diffused Ghost with no hets that we had on breeding loan. We got all Anery out of the clutch as expected.
We have bred them this year and only got this one small clutch from our two females unfortunately.
The interesting thing is that they turned out to be het Pied!
So we have Avalanche Motley Pied, Diffused Ghost Pied, Diffused Ghost Motley Pied and a Granite Pied. We really beat the odds with these few eggs.
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Adsclarke
Hatchling
United Kingdom
259 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 11:53:20
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#1256 Het Amel Caramel Cinder Mot X Amel het Cinder Stripe
This clutch has hatched and we have been lucky enough to get an Amel Cinder het Motley/Stripe! Better than the Cinder het Motley/Stripe than we were hoping for. A couple of Amel Cinders and Cinders in here too.
We have had some great Motley patterns out as you can see in the photo:
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Adsclarke
Hatchling
United Kingdom
259 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 11:54:52
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#1232 Golddust het Motley X Butter het Diffused Motley
From some really rubbish looking eggs have hatched some nice Butters and Golddusts with some Motley through in as well.
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Adsclarke
Hatchling
United Kingdom
259 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 11:57:20
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#1277 Tessera het Amel Diffused X Fire het Anery Charcoal
This clutch has hatched and we got some Tessera with the full stripe.
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Adsclarke
Hatchling
United Kingdom
259 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 11:59:09
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#1259 Het Cinder Diffused X Same
This clutch has hatched now with mostly normals but there is a Diffused, Cinder and a Diffused Cinder in there somewhere!
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Figs
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3319 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 12:01:52
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The baby on top of the pile in the #1206 clutch is super, super pretty!! Almost like granite burm/carpet python patterning |
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Adsclarke
Hatchling
United Kingdom
259 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 12:02:31
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#1263 Het Caramel Lava Motley X Same
We have been breeding this project trio since 2010 and we really don't ever get much luck with it! We have never produced a Lava Motley or a Topaz Motley. In over 120+ eggs we have only ever produced one Topaz.. Nothing changes so far this year. Sometimes this hobby have be so frustrating :)
There are some nice Lava and Caramel Motleys in there so no major complaints though.
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Adsclarke
Hatchling
United Kingdom
259 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 12:04:42
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#1257 Het Amel Caramel Cinder Mot X Butter Motley ph Cinder
This one has hatched and we are still not sure if she is het Cinder or not! There are a couple of animals in here that might be homozygous Cinder. A few sheds will tell us I think.
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Adsclarke
Hatchling
United Kingdom
259 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 12:06:11
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#1223 Het Caramel Lava Motley X Ultra Caramel het Anery Mot
This clutch is hatching at the moment and we have some Ultramel, Golddust and Motleys in there too.
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Adsclarke
Hatchling
United Kingdom
259 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 12:08:44
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Finally for now. Another quick one from #1283 Whiteout X Ultramel het Charcoal Diffused
Ultramel Pewter and Whiteout together
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 13:08:15
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very nice looking hatchlings |
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3315 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2012 : 17:13:34
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Beautiful snakes. I'm so excited for these to be ready to go to their new homes. Looks like I may be joining the many corn snake owners that can't stop at one! Hehe. |
2.4.0 Corn snakes 1.0.0 horse 0.1.0 Golden retriever 1.4.0 Guinea pigs |
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5292 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2012 : 17:14:36
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Love looking at huge piles of snakes :) |
1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon) 0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie) 0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo) 1.0.0 Cat (Angus) 1 mealworm colony RIP Skye x Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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NexivRed
Yearling
United Kingdom
551 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2012 : 17:36:19
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Wow. What beautiful, beautiful hatchlings. The one on the top of the 1211 pile is a jaw dropper! You breed some incredible looking animals. I know we shouldn't love animals just cos of the way they look, but it's hard not to with these stunners!
Could you explain some genetics to me quickly though. With the tessera clutch, how come they're not all tessera patterned? Is it because only one parent carried the gene so some are just little not tesseras, and the ones that are show their colour morph but via tessera? Will they be het tessera instea? Just trying to learn more :) |
R.I.P. 0.1: CB10 Ophion - pewter masque het amel 1.0: CB10 lavender stripe het ??? - Alabaster (Bats) Codify 0.1: CB12 hypo plasma het amel - Nebula 0.2: CB13 diffused 66% pos het cinder - Demeter (Mimi) & Bombulurina (Reenie) 1.0: CB13 hypo cinder ?% pos het amel stripe - Huckleberry 0.1: CB13 anery aztec het amel - Tetris 1.0: CB13 gold dust motley stripe - Helios |
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3315 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2012 : 17:53:57
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I'm still pretty new to the genetics too, but as far as I understand it, Tessera is a dominant gene. Any hatchling which gets the tessera gene will look like a tessera. If they don't get the tessera gene, they look normal. If they're not all tessera patterned, it is probably because the tessera was not homozygous (had a tessera and a normal gene) so the normal hatchlings didn't get the tessera gene.
Just the way I understand it anyway, hopefully someone more experienced will correct me if I'm wrong.
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NexivRed
Yearling
United Kingdom
551 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2012 : 18:21:59
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Oh, is that what homo means? Not just a visible morph, but one where there's a gene in each coach seat (I forget the proper term starting with A). Is that why offspring are only 50% het for a gene not showing in them, but showed in their parents showed then?
Some simple maths to try and get it straight in my head:
Homo Charcoal + Charcoal = babies with at least 1 charcoal gene for sure?
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R.I.P. 0.1: CB10 Ophion - pewter masque het amel 1.0: CB10 lavender stripe het ??? - Alabaster (Bats) Codify 0.1: CB12 hypo plasma het amel - Nebula 0.2: CB13 diffused 66% pos het cinder - Demeter (Mimi) & Bombulurina (Reenie) 1.0: CB13 hypo cinder ?% pos het amel stripe - Huckleberry 0.1: CB13 anery aztec het amel - Tetris 1.0: CB13 gold dust motley stripe - Helios |
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Adsclarke
Hatchling
United Kingdom
259 Posts |
Posted - 15/07/2012 : 11:34:14
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Hey thanks for the all the comments guys, apologies I've not been back on for a few days. We're knee deep in hatchlings here.
Tessera is dominant or co-dominant to normal unlike most other corn genes. This means that carrying one copy of the gene is enough to show the tessera pattern rather than needing two. So if you breed a Tessera with one copy of the gene (het but visual) to a snake not carrying the tessera gene you will get 50% normal and 50% tessera.
We don't think there is a super form of the Tessera gene, so Heterozygous (one copy) or Homozygous (two copies) look the same.
There is a lot still to undertand about Tessera!
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