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HayleyH
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
11 Posts |
 Posted - 09/05/2012 : 20:24:42
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Hi I need help!
I've had 2 corn snakes now for approx 7 weeks now......
they were both housed together in the shop so I kept them together...
had no problems at all with them at all thinking they were both males so kept a close eye on them just incase.....
the shop i had them from hadnt seen that the light coloured one had started the shedding process.....
so shedding wasnt as smooth going as it should have been and it was scratching at its skin eventually it managed to get it all off....
a week later the darker one started to shed had no problems at all with this one......
then 1 night near the middle of april just after they had both been fed the started acting very strange
they were both very active chasing each other around the viv then when they rested the both started twitching then they both went into the hide
thinking nothing of it i checked on them before i went to bed they both were fine and sleeping so left it at that and thought nothing of it
would 2 males act like that?????
then someone had said that it sounded they were doing the breeding process so i started to read up the breeding process
ive read that the females shed before releasing the eggs 2 days ago she went very grey in colour and is in the shedding process again
how long after the skin being shed would she release the eggs?
i cant see any visual signs at the minute that there are any eggs in the snake but i dont really know what im looking for??????
is it safe to handle the snake whilst its shedding or even carrying eggs ive tried research but i find that personal experience is usually better
ive been and got a box today and some moss and vermiculite as it says in a book to get just incase
when should i put this in the viv?
i will need alot of help during the process from eggs to sale of baby corns and any help is much appreciated |
pretty new to owning snakes!!!!! help!!!!! |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 20:26:20
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firstly have you seperated them?
secondly how old and big are they?
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1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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HayleyH
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
11 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 20:29:33
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havent seperated them as yet as havent got another viv
tehy are both 4ft long dont know the age as the shop didnt know either  |
pretty new to owning snakes!!!!! help!!!!! |
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HayleyH
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
11 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 20:32:15
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the one that i would say is the male has a smaller head than the other one and is staying well away from "her"
i was going to get them sexed at a reptile shop this week to be sure they were both male im guessing that i may not have to now |
pretty new to owning snakes!!!!! help!!!!! |
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tordyjo
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2036 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 20:44:48
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if it is a she and she does lay eggs you don't have to incubate them, you can freeze them first then chuck them out. If you can get a rub, i use one of those with the blue handles as they act like a lock, they're cheap enough, she might be getting stressed with the other snake in there and if she is gravid could prevent her from laying the eggs.
Hope everything goes ok with her |
 Lilly Crystal Harry
1.2.0 corns, 1.1.0 cats tropical guppies who continually breed
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HayleyH
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
11 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 20:50:27
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| i dont think i could do that i know that raising baby corns isnt for everyone but i couldnt do that |
pretty new to owning snakes!!!!! help!!!!! |
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 20:51:20
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| eggs are normaly laid between 7 and 14 days after the female has shed. You need to put the laying box in the viv now so she can get used to it |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 20:52:08
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well you need to get prepaired quickly.
firstly seperate then adults
i would say that if she is gravid and she has had her pre lay shed, she should be showing? i think its an average of 10 - 16 days from the shed to laying. |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 20:52:24
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| have you got an incubator? |
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HayleyH
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
11 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:03:48
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| ive been looking into how to make 1 with a heat mat and plastic boxes but would you recommend a proper one??? |
pretty new to owning snakes!!!!! help!!!!! |
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:12:56
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| people use both kinds,i'm using 2 herp nursery 2's at the moment. you can make 1 though but you will also need a mat stat to control the heat mat and a digital thermometer with a probe. home made incubators can work just aswell. |
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HayleyH
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
11 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:17:45
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thank you kev
ive just had "her" out for a minute just to see if i can feel anything as she has run through my hands i thought i could feel something but am not positive there arent any visual signs as yet but she is still shedding so maybe after she has shed???????
could it be a coinsidence that the snake has shed as a normal shed and isnt a female after all
but would they do the twitching and chasing each other if they were males? |
pretty new to owning snakes!!!!! help!!!!! |
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HayleyH
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
11 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:22:41
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Originally posted by Georgina
well you need to get prepaired quickly.
firstly seperate then adults
i would say that if she is gravid and she has had her pre lay shed, she should be showing? i think its an average of 10 - 16 days from the shed to laying.
she hasnt shed yet hopefully next 24 to 48hrs she will shed the skin shes just very dull and eyes have gone from a lovely red to a dull pinkish colour because of the skin |
pretty new to owning snakes!!!!! help!!!!! |
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:27:37
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| i didn't realise she was still shedding,leave her until she has finished shedding. one of my females laid 17 eggs at the end of january but even a few days before she laid i couldn't feel anything and she didn't look swollen like most females do. to be honest unless you've seen them locked together you can't be 100% sure. i'd put a lay box in the viv tomorrow to be on the safe side and as the days pass she should spend more and more time in there |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:29:28
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cool, you need to get am incubator set up ready now.
you can buy a shop bought one, but if you go to a local green grocer you can pic up a poly bix and lid
you need a heat mat
stat
vermiculate
take away boxes
and then as soon as the eggs are laid enough set ups for the amount of eggs.
and be prepaud for anything x |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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HayleyH
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
11 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:42:11
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quote:
Originally posted by kev 5
i didn't realise she was still shedding,leave her until she has finished shedding. one of my females laid 17 eggs at the end of january but even a few days before she laid i couldn't feel anything and she didn't look swollen like most females do. to be honest unless you've seen them locked together you can't be 100% sure. i'd put a lay box in the viv tomorrow to be on the safe side and as the days pass she should spend more and more time in there
sorry i was actually just doing that!!!
will be taking a trip to the local reptile shop tomorrow to get the things i need to be on the safe side |
pretty new to owning snakes!!!!! help!!!!! |
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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3065 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:59:16
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| cool,just ask if there is anything else you want to know |
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Katie.Dublin
Sub Adult
Ireland
1560 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 22:03:15
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| Don't want to confuse things but if the shop said they were both males it is possible. You didn't actually see them lock did you? (wrap around each other usually with a clear view of the males jiggley bits entering the female!) |
     
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HayleyH
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
11 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 22:17:06
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quote:
Originally posted by Katie.Dublin
Don't want to confuse things but if the shop said they were both males it is possible. You didn't actually see them lock did you? (wrap around each other usually with a clear view of the males jiggley bits entering the female!)
the shop didnt know!!!!! and ive been back several times since and its as though they have no idea on how to look after reptiles they have no pasiion for them they just feed them and clean them out. have had more help on here tonight than what ive had from there in the last 10 times ive been up
and i didnt see them but would they behave like that if they were both males and they did go straight into the hide so they could have done it in there???? |
pretty new to owning snakes!!!!! help!!!!! |
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HayleyH
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
11 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 22:20:57
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| in a way i hope they are both males but its just my luck that they are male and female looking at new vivs just incase |
pretty new to owning snakes!!!!! help!!!!! |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 22:40:09
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| they should be kept seperatly any way x |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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pregnant corn snake????????
