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sparky_marky84
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
8 Posts |
 Posted - 09/05/2012 : 16:46:40
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hi folks just a quick question i have adopted a 3year old corn snake i have only had it 2days went to try take it out of its viv and noticed its tail was rattling (vibrating) and it tried 2 strike me its now very angry and going crazy in its viv but its feeding day today and i really need 2 clean its viv last owner neglected it and has not cleaned it in over a month which peed me off thts why a took it just wondering if this is normal and will it calm down any advice would be greatfull thanks.
  
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Starmist
Hatchling
United Kingdom
248 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 16:49:46
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| Hi there! Congrats on your new snakie!! If I was you I would leave it for 7 days to get used to the surroundings on the outside. Also a tip a lot of people give is to keep a sock in your pocket for a day and then pop it in the snakes tank to get used to your smell. Did the previous owner handle it much? Probably a stupid question considering his tank is dirty. If it's really dirty perhaps just take out the obvious poops and general mess and wait for a week and see how he goes on from there? I'm sure someone will be able to offer a bit more advice later, but this is what I would do :) |
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Jarvo
Egg
United Kingdom
96 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 16:52:57
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I'm no expert but if he/she is angry I don't think I would try feeding he/she.
If you can try to spot clean the viv and no handleing for a week if you can.
I would give he/she plenty of hides but if he/she is angry in the viv maybe cover the viv with a towel or sheet until he/she settle's down in his/hers new place.
I,m sure that someone with more experience will advise you more. |
1.0.0. Albino Boa (Bailey)
1.0.0. Anery corn (Zack)
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sparky_marky84
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
8 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 16:55:13
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| no they said they hadnt held it in a while i was the 1 who took it out of its viv in there house held it for about an hour thats where those pics were taken so i thought it would have been fine with me |
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5292 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 17:02:51
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| You really ought to give it a week to settle in, if the vivs too mucky use an RUB for the time being and only go in for water changes ;) |
1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
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RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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sparky_marky84
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
8 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 17:11:26
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| whats a rub sorry but i am new to all this |
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a33272
our battery charger
United Kingdom
3063 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 17:16:53
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| Clean the viv then return the snake an leave it for a week an just change the water, u need to let it settle in its new environment, remember its gunna be seeing lots of new sights an smells now so it needs to adjust. I wouldn't feed it either for a week, its not going to do it any harm. If u have other snakes it needs to be in a diffeant room ideally to. |
    
0.1.0 creamsicle corn-Marmalade
1.0.0 jungle carpet python-Bumble
1.0.0 corn Casper
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Auld Baldy
Ikea's Pimp
United Kingdom
1619 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 17:26:54
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Here we go with another Snake Whispering session. 
The snake probably hasn't been handled regularly so you need to get it used to you and being handled. The tail rattling and striking are defensive moves to scare you off. You appear as a big predator to him and he wants you to go away. You should give him regular handling sessions, maybe a couple of times a day of about 5 minutes at a time and gradually increase it. He will eventually accept you and calm down.
First, don't bother with feeding for now. I'd suggest putting him in a (RUB) temporary tub and strip the viv and give it a good clean and replace with fresh substrate (or newspapers for now).
Carry on handling as you are doing in the pictures, let him pass over your hands and arms but don't grab him, just 'walk your hands' under him. Let him explore and he will calm down when he realises he is not on the menu. It could take several sessions like this until he fully trusts you but he will come round.
Make sure that there are plenty hidey holes for him. One at the warm end and one at the cool is the minimum but you can stack it with loo rolls, tissue boxes, ice cream tubs etc.. More the merrier.
See how things develop over about a week and then try feeding him. Put him in a feeding tub or tray and jiggle a (medium) mouse by the tail. He should strike and demolish the mouse. Leave him to swallow and stop squirming for several minutes and then return to his viv. Leave to digest for about 48 hours before continuing with the handling but watch out for the 'tail lift' as a poop warning. 
Don't worry about getting a tag, they don't tear lumps and barely break the skin. Let us know how you progress and fire away with any other questions. Handsome looking chap, the snake that is.  |
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sparky_marky84
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
8 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 17:37:39
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| yes i do i have a 15week old king snake its in another room |
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sparky_marky84
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
8 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 17:40:46
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| thanks for the advice much appreciated |
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Mamma
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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a33272
our battery charger
United Kingdom
3063 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 18:12:08
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Originally posted by Mamma
you can use the scent trick. Carry something with you for 24 hrs. Like a sock or something. Pop it in his housing. Make him become accustomed to your scent xx
Tis OK snake will do that when he bites him |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 18:25:41
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| Patience & understanding is the key. Snake is currently not sure where he is, nothing is familiar and in its mind everything is out to get it. Takes these scaredy snakes a week or two to realise he is in no danger in his new surroundings. Even if the vivarium is exactly the same as before he will still be bombarded by unfamiliar smells and he is working out do these smells mean danger etc. After a week of working these things out you can then introduce the giant bald monkey to him (you) and show him your not a predator and actually a climbing frame. Taming them to you is all part of the fun and you have a King snake so getting bit shouldn't be unfamiliar to you, lol. |
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sparky_marky84
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
8 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 18:47:09
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| av not been bit yet whats it like is it painfull i was told its not as sore as a hamster bite and thanks for the bald monkey comment lol and i forgot to say i fed him earlier 2day he snached it rite away and dragged it into its den |
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a2c7
Hatchling
United Kingdom
320 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2012 : 21:41:30
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I've not been bitten by an adult snake but I've been savaged a few times by a determined teenage kingsnake.
It is no where near as painful as a hamster bite. If the snake gets you in a defensive move it'll just be a very quick sensation, the shock of it is worse than what you feel..and you might not feel anything. There may be a bit of blood if they catch you properly but often their teeth don't pierce the skin. If the snake wants to eat you it might hurt a bit more as they'll be putting a lot more pressure on, but I think we've determined that your lovely snake isn't trying to eat you, only scare you off.
If your snake does latch on and starts to try and swallow you then put the tap on gently and put the snake's head under the water (works every time with Ginn.) Whatever you do, don't try and pull yourself out of the snake's mouth as you could break off the teeth and do more damage to both of you I'm told. |
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sparky_marky84
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
8 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2012 : 19:53:56
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| well i tried 2 take the corn snake out its viv again today and yet again it keeps striking me think am at a lose with it now it just seems very agressive its now goin nuts in its viv hitting its window kids and the missus are scared and want it out so looks like am gony need 2 find a new home for it i am gutted |
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viraleye
Yearling
United Kingdom
695 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2012 : 20:14:57
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Something i found helped with my hatchie when i was being rattled at was to put my hand in his rub but let him come to me. I did this for a week of just resting my hand in the rub for 5 minutes every day and he soon realised i was no harm to him.
Might be worth a try? |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2012 : 20:17:44
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Greetings from the kingsnake :p
Corn bites are the same as kings, they make you jump more than they hurt. You haven't had it long, new environment along maybe with the not as best previous owner care, plus they can get a bit moody with this season. It is not normal for a corn like this, it's more the kind of behaviour my kingsnake does but that saying, each snake is different. |
  
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5292 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2012 : 20:18:30
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I dont think you should rehome him, he'll calm down
maybe if you open the viv and let him just come to you and then scoop him up? |
1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
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RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2012 : 21:19:18
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| Just see it from the snakes point of view, its scared, all these new smells, sounds and 9 days in a giant bald monkey has tried to eat him. It takes time to settle them down, I dont know its history but with a bit of time, patience and understanding it will calm down, snakes aren't aggressive animals unless you are a rodent then you might feel differently, any reaction to you is out of fear not aggression. |
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Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2012 : 22:03:00
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| Please give him a little longer before you decide to get rid! Give him more of a chance to settle in. Make sure you try to get him out when the kids aren't around (and possibly your wife as well if she is also nervous) as any loud noises/sudden movements from them he's going to be a lot worse. Also, it is common for corns to be a little defensive in their vivs - he'll probably be absolutely fine once outside the viv. I know it must be a lot more daunting with an adult, but even my hatchlings still dash away from me when I go to get them out (although Corno is getting better and will sometimes venture out on her own!). I would try going in, removing any hides so he's got nowhere to slither off to, trying to grab him (gently!) about a third of the way down his body so you can support him and just get him out of there! Good luck, just bear in mind, the more you try to get him out but then give up and leave him alone, the more he thinks his behaviour is successful and the right way to go! |
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