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a2c7
Hatchling

United Kingdom
320 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  09:40:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So Ara seems to have developed a real penchant for not moving much.

He shed yesterday and it came off in three pieces - the last with my help, wriggling through a damp cloth. He ate last Friday but only accepted one pink, not his usual two, I put it down to him being in shed (his eyes had just cleared.)

Problem is he's been pretty docile and limp for a while now (a week or more), when you take him out of his faun he doesn't protest and takes a while to get going, even then he's not as speedy as he used to be. He was born Nov 11 and has been with us for a few months.

He has a heat matt on a thermostat which goes to ~28 degrees, he has hides at the cool and warm end and about an inch of aspen at the cool end, less at the warm, he used to love to burrow. Right now he's just sat half in a toilet paper tube, half out with his head raised a bit, not really hidden.

I'm going to do a full clean in a bit, but I'm quite concerned that he isn't right.

Is there anything I should do - should I try and feed him again today (he's pooped and wee'd and I assume his last meal has digested.)

Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  09:41:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When did he eat last? X

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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a2c7
Hatchling

United Kingdom
320 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  09:47:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Friday, sorry, I should have said. 1 pinky, not his normal 2.

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a2c7
Hatchling

United Kingdom
320 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  09:53:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok, my OH is cleaning the faun and Ara is just sat in my hand, still, he's moved his head once in the past 5 mins.

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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5292 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  10:11:57  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
my sonnys all calm and still when he comes out, i hope its nuffin to worry about :S

1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  10:15:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would maybe try and get hold of some repti boost. And feed the usual 2 pinks tomorrow. I would minimise handleing as it may stress him out too much x are your temps defo correct? X

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  10:17:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Or is he just chilled out? Still eating and pooing! If he is I would just say that he's having a chilled week. Mine vary like that from week to week, but if he is limp the go with the above x

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5292 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  10:25:29  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
sonnys not limp, hes just a chillaxed lil dude, spesh when watchin tv, we think he's ok?

1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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a2c7
Hatchling

United Kingdom
320 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  10:39:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it could be that he's just a very chilled little snake, especially when you compare him to our other two - a young boa and a fiendish kingsnake - he will seem 'weak' and docile I guess. He's woken up a bit now and is moving around, but I'll be monitoring everything like a hawk. We've got a digital thermometer in his faun at all times and I've used it to monitor other temperatures, it seems pretty accurate.

We've double checked all the wiring since we came undone with that before! I'll take your advice and feed him tomorrow and not handle him until then and obviously the two days after. I'll also invest in some reptiboost as he isn't normally *this* chilled! If I can't get my paws on it I'll give him a powerade bath I think, just before feeding tomorrow.

You know as pet owners you just know your pets. This isn't like him really, he's very relaxed but normally likes a good explore - could be he was just tired, could be he's struggling with something.

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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5292 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  10:49:45  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
maybe the iffy shed has worn him out

1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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Spreebok
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1135 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  13:27:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think you'd enjoy a visit from my Snow, Lister.
She is the floppiest, most docile, lazy corn I have ever come across! :)

So long as Ara is eating, pooping and shedding, I wouldn't be too concerned :)
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a2c7
Hatchling

United Kingdom
320 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  15:19:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I said I'd do it tomorrow but we were pretty concerned for our little Ara. All I can say is it seems to have been a false alarm!

Ara is sat in front of me in a Tupperware box with the lid partly on (plenty of air getting in) in a Powerade solution and he is not still! "What is this strange blue stuff, how do I get out of here? Can I come play? HELLLOOOOOO!" he says.

We'll rinse him off and tell him if he's ever as dopey and plays dead like he did earlier again I'll be having him out for play time when Ginn is out, that should do the trick.

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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  17:48:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by a2c7

Well, I said I'd do it tomorrow but we were pretty concerned for our little Ara. All I can say is it seems to have been a false alarm!

Ara is sat in front of me in a Tupperware box with the lid partly on (plenty of air getting in) in a Powerade solution and he is not still! "What is this strange blue stuff, how do I get out of here? Can I come play? HELLLOOOOOO!" he says.

We'll rinse him off and tell him if he's ever as dopey and plays dead like he did earlier again I'll be having him out for play time when Ginn is out, that should do the trick.



Powerade?!?! as in the energy drink?
I'm pretty sure that can't be good for a snake... :S



Oh and Spreebok, is it you who's snakes are named after Red Dwarf characters? I love that if they are

0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)

2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

Location: Ossett


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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  17:49:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Or am I missing something, is powerade a snake solution that I just haven't heard of? if it is then I'm pretty embarassed that I thought you'd put him in powerade the drink!

0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)

2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

Location: Ossett


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tordyjo
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2036 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  17:57:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it is powerade the drink, but its used diluted as a tonic type solution to try and boost quickly the hydration and sugars to restore some energy

someone please correct me if i'm wrong

LillyCrystalHarry
1.2.0 corns, 1.1.0 cats tropical guppies who continually breed

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Spreebok
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1135 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  18:56:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@Queenvic Haha, yup, they all are apart from the caramel motley, as he's my sisters, I wanted to call him Ace though :) And poweraide is a little bit of a miracle tonic, it's great for perking sad snakeys up, and a little bit of it in their waterbowls is great for helping a regurger recover :)
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a2c7
Hatchling

United Kingdom
320 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2012 :  21:28:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
QueenVic, I'd read about it before when researching snake keeping in general and when Ara was so dopey this morning, last night and a week or so before hand when Georgina suggested reptiboost and I knew none of the shops nearby stocked it I went looking for the secret recipe.

People use various solutions of it and water, we used a 50% solution of it in snake warm water which wasn't high enough to cover Ara up and then popped him in it for 10minutes. We then let him soak in a plain water solution to wash off the sugar and then put him in a box with some damp kitchen towel. We've fed him - he took two pinkies very happily - and will let him be now for 2 days and then take it easy with him for a week depending on how his mood is. I really hope he was just a bit down in the dumps due to the shedding process not going to plan, but if his shed was bad something hadn't been right for him so this may help.

It's actually (this makes me laugh every time cause I've seen Idiocracy) the electrolytes in Powerade that help apparently, the same way we're meant to have water after being sick.

Spree: you're a little bit of a hero to me for naming your snakes that way, been watching red dwarf again recently and laughing so hard.


Edited by - a2c7 on 09/05/2012 21:30:06
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