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lupi lou
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3670 Posts |
 Posted - 23/05/2012 : 17:42:40
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| sorry for the lose, you'd think a big pets store like that wouldn't want to risk its reputation especially since they have had a slating in the past when it comes to reps |
 
1.0.1 Corns
0.1.0 Dog: springer
1.0.0 Horse
0.4.0 Gerbils
2.2.0 Leopard gecko
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coxymk2
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1245 Posts |
Posted - 23/05/2012 : 20:25:56
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| I think that along with a lot of other large companies the only thing that matters to them is the balance sheet. Thanks for all your posts. |
0.0.1 ANERY (Liquorice)
0.0.1 CAROLINA (Bangle)
0.0.1 AMEL (Boozer)
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 23/05/2012 : 21:32:31
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Originally posted by lupi lou
sorry for the lose, you'd think a big pets store like that wouldn't want to risk its reputation especially since they have had a slating in the past when it comes to reps
Think its down to each different store, some managers will care others won't care at all sadly. Anyway you can get in contact with someone much higher up? |
   
A very special super, duper thanks for K :3 |
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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5599 Posts |
Posted - 24/05/2012 : 22:11:06
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| Sorry about the gecko. They have a shocking attitude to the health of the animals they are selling. Really hope the vet comes up trumps for you. |
      
3.1.0 Corn snakes, 1.0.0 T-Albino Cape House Snake, 0.1.0 Western Hognose,
1.0.0 MBK, 0.1.0 Childrens Python, 1.0.0 Nicaraguan Dwarf Boas
0.0.1 Occelated Skink, 1.0.0 Leopard Gecko, 1.0.3 Tarantulas, 0.0.2 Damon diadema
1.0.0 C0ckatiel,
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adamasrc
Hatchling
United Kingdom
255 Posts |
Posted - 24/05/2012 : 22:35:54
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sorry for your loss.. was in P@H today and thought i'd test the guys knowledge a bit, i asked what temp they kept their cresties at..
34 celcius.. |
0.1.0 Buttercorn (Molly)
1.0.0 Royal (Duke)
http://www.youtube.com/user/ReptilesQuest?feature=mhee
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2012 : 10:39:58
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if i dont forget, i will post another reply later on about Crypto. Off the top of my head basically all the bad stuff thats been said is true, its highly contagious, it is passed on by physical contact, transferred by our husbandry, it is also airborne. Apart from IBD, its one of the worst diseases to diagnose and treat. There are treatments for it, but they only treat symptoms, they dont treat the cause, at the moment that isnt possible, although it is being worked on. Reptile Crypto will not infect us as humans, i believe it can however infect birds, genetically and physically (on the inside) they are quite similar. I need to check later, but i think that crpyto can be tested for with a blood test, its either that or a tissue sample, but dont quote me on that.
The only way to get rid of crypto completely is to euthanise an entire collection, you cant sell it, you cant give it away (you can, but you shouldnt), if people know you have crypto then you will not have anyone touch your animals with a barge pole. Snakes and lizards can be asymptomatic, meaning they carry the disease, and are capable of passing it on, but are not affected by it, so can live an normal life, although they can develop symptoms along the line. I will speak to my partner later on who is a vetinary hematological and something else vet labby to do with disease and infection.
Pets at home are morons and the best of times, keep on at them to change, you might get through to them eventually. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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viraleye
Yearling
United Kingdom
695 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2012 : 11:29:22
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I am really saddened by your loss. I too have had faults with PAH. On their aquatic section. You will find that some PAH stores are really good and know their stuff whilst others are straight out of school without A care in the world.
Can i just ask though - what exactly is Crypto? I have never heard of it??? |
1.0.0 Cyrus - Amel het Anery ph Hypo - CURRENTLY AWOL
0.1.0 Diamond - Avalanche ph Charcoal, Hypo
1.0.0 Garland - Bloodred het Hypo
1.0.0 Pinball - Carolina
0.1.0 Casey - Hypo Lavender Stripe het Amel
0.0.1 - No Name Yet - Crested Gecko |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2012 : 16:57:49
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Its a protazoan parasite, very hard to detect and at the moment, near on impossible to kill.
the fatality rate is exceptionally high, near 100%, and if it isnt, it should be because its so very hard to cure, and because its so infectious it can wipe out an entire collection of both snakes and lizards.
Forgive the link off site, but it really is worth a read.
http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/forums/lizards/362468-cryptosporidiosis-lizards.html |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2012 : 18:00:56
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| Gmac was right, i kinda missed it first time round, its tested from the stool sample, apparently, its not tested whilst doing a PM, so any results from a PM do not point directly at Crypto, it has to be tested from the stool sample. I am not saying the vet was wrong in his diagnosis, its far too common a disease these days, but i think hes testing the wrong thing. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Okeetee Mick
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2308 Posts |
Posted - 26/05/2012 : 08:52:30
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| Well we've all been warned, if you value you collections avoid said store. |
0.1.0 Okeetee (Sookie) 0.1.0 Powder (Luna) 0.1.0 Bloodred (Arlene) 0.1.0 Caramel Stripe (Tara)
0.1.0 Ghost (Crystal) 0.1.0 Caramel (Jessica) 0.1.0 Lavender Stripe (Portia) 1.0.0 Platinum (Godric)
0.1.0 Thayers King (Lettie Mae) 0.1.0 Albino Blairs King (Lorena) 0.1.0 Russian Ratsnakes (Pam)
0.1.0 Korean Ratsnake (Katerina) 1.0.0 Russian Ratsnake (Lafayette)
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viraleye
Yearling
United Kingdom
695 Posts |
Posted - 26/05/2012 : 15:00:33
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Originally posted by mikerichards
Its a protazoan parasite, very hard to detect and at the moment, near on impossible to kill.
the fatality rate is exceptionally high, near 100%, and if it isnt, it should be because its so very hard to cure, and because its so infectious it can wipe out an entire collection of both snakes and lizards.
Forgive the link off site, but it really is worth a read.
http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/forums/lizards/362468-cryptosporidiosis-lizards.html
Thankyou for the link, its really horrible reading about it. So basically its probably one of the worst things youd reptile could catch. |
1.0.0 Cyrus - Amel het Anery ph Hypo - CURRENTLY AWOL
0.1.0 Diamond - Avalanche ph Charcoal, Hypo
1.0.0 Garland - Bloodred het Hypo
1.0.0 Pinball - Carolina
0.1.0 Casey - Hypo Lavender Stripe het Amel
0.0.1 - No Name Yet - Crested Gecko |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 28/05/2012 : 19:20:42
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| IBD in boas is often worse, its 100% fatal and the symptoms are far worse. As far as an inter species goes, yeah, pretty much. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 28/05/2012 : 20:04:29
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| I wish I'd known about this before I bought Ember - now I don't know if she's OK or not! |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 28/05/2012 : 21:29:13
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put it this way, i have had over 500 snakes, i have never had Crypto, had over 20 geckos too.
Its such an unknown that it tends to get diagnosed without actually being diagnosed. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 29/05/2012 : 21:23:17
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| Yeah, but how many of yours were from PaH? ;) At least it won't be the same branch as we live in different areas, so I'll try not to worry - she seems fine so far!! |
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coxymk2
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1245 Posts |
Posted - 29/05/2012 : 21:56:59
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| If ember is eating pooing and putting on weight everything should be ok. I have been to 2 more shops who seem to have no problems so it could well be it is just the 1 shop with the problem. |
0.0.1 ANERY (Liquorice)
0.0.1 CAROLINA (Bangle)
0.0.1 AMEL (Boozer)
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lupi lou
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3670 Posts |
Posted - 29/05/2012 : 22:08:28
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Originally posted by smart bunny
I wish I'd known about this before I bought Ember - now I don't know if she's OK or not!
your not the only one who worried when this thread first came up!! what with jinx being a p@h special!! |
1.0.1 Corns
0.1.0 Dog: springer
1.0.0 Horse
0.4.0 Gerbils
2.2.0 Leopard gecko
0.2.0 Cave gecko |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 30/05/2012 : 20:52:33
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Originally posted by smart bunny
Yeah, but how many of yours were from PaH? ;) At least it won't be the same branch as we live in different areas, so I'll try not to worry - she seems fine so far!!
I am smarter than that.
None, and never will be either.
Either way, its irrelevant who is selling them, they dont breed their own, they buy in from breeders in bulk. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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CRYPTOSPORIDIOSIS
