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Emmerz
Hatchling
166 Posts |
 Posted - 06/04/2012 : 17:02:05
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Just so you could all see my gorgeous snakes..:-) |
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Mamma
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4494 Posts |
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Emmerz
Hatchling
166 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 17:04:21
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| Thanks, yeah I do, there all around one year old! |
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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3215 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 17:08:11
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Some lovely snakes you have.
Have you read the thread about co-habiting?
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1070 |
1.1 Corns (Anery Stripe, Amel) 1.0 Rootbeer 0.2 Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 Zebra Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 50% Diamond Zebra Carpet Python |
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Emmerz
Hatchling
166 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 17:12:04
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Thanks,
They have been together since day 1 which was about 11 months ago and nothing's ever happened, in fact they are all like best friends going under the same hides when they have one each? Thanks for the advice though. |
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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3215 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 17:29:20
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| As long as you are aware of the issues that may arise. Lots of people have different views on the subject it is always going to be down to personal preference and lots of people co-habit without issues. If you have a couple of spare days (its a long thread) it is worth a read :) |
1.1 Corns (Anery Stripe, Amel) 1.0 Rootbeer 0.2 Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 Zebra Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 50% Diamond Zebra Carpet Python |
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Katie.Dublin
Sub Adult
Ireland
1560 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 18:12:28
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Nice snakes..but I read in your previous post that you had 4 corns in the same tank and recently bought a 3 year old 5th snake. Have you just lumped them in together cause that's a bad idea in many many respects!! (especially considering the size difference between the corns and the grey, did you say it was a rat snake?)
Also You really should separate that male. I'm not completely against cohabiting as I have two adult females in a 4 foot tank together, but having a male in there is NOT NOT NOT NOT a good idea! I'm sorry but imagine if the young 3 females mated with him and all became eggbound and died! It's a very realistic possibility. |
     
0.1 normal (Miami) - Hugo
0.1 hypo Motley - Spunky
0.1 MBK - Tequila. RIP
Horses, bearded dragons, a red tailed boa constrictor, a tortoise, a cat and a dog |
Edited by - Katie.Dublin on 06/04/2012 18:16:12 |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 19:32:13
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from reading and looking at co-hab corns. which i did briefly as i was mis advised by a shop. from all the research i have done i have come to the understanding that corns will collect in one place to compete for the same space. when corns hatch they all go their seperate ways and then live their lives alone. im not saying that you canot co hab as people do, and have every success. but keeping a mxed sex group is a no no.
on the positive they are all beautiful snakes x |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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Falice
Yearling
United Kingdom
757 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 20:17:09
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they are all lovely!  |
1.0.0 Royal Python (Sir Cuthbert)
1.0.0 Corn (Trevor)
1.0.0 C0ckatiel (Baldwin)
1.0.0 Jug - jack russel x pug (Keyser Soze)
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Emmerz
Hatchling
166 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 20:18:03
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Right,
at the moment the male is separated from the females because of breeding season.
and the 3 year old female is in a separate tank by herself away from all the one year old's.
Katie, she only has a tiny bit of rat snake in her.
When I went to buy the snakes, they had six corn snakes in one big tank and he said it was perfectly alright to have them in one big tank until they get old enough to breed and then you have to separate them. Sorry if I am been defeatist towards this idea it's just that many of my friends keep corns together and even in major pet stores they keep corns together. Also I have seen many of people on here put pictures of there snakes in the same tank? Sorry again if i'm been argumentative when you're trying to tell me something, and thank you to all who say I have lovely snakes:-) |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 20:28:15
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sorry if we come across argumentative.
but you must understand that all of us have been mis advised by a per shop somewhere along the way.
aslong as you are aware of the risks, then it is your choice.
most pet stores will cohad due to space restrictions, and as a short term housing method. they are not instictivly social creatures and it can cause un know stress to keep them together.
its good that have the male and older corn seperate, but you may find that some people will be reluctant to offer advise, when, in their eyes are ignore this advise.
if you have the room to seperate them i would, or at a maximum i would keep the females in same sex pairs and male singular x |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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oakleyman18
Yearling
828 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 20:31:31
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A male doesn't always care what time of year it is- Please, don't house them together. FULL STOP. Ever. Unless you want babies, but even then it's gonna stress them out. I'm afraid I'm also in the group that believes snakes don't "cuddle up" together.
Co-hab seems to be ok once a certain age, and when the same sex, but pet stores dont always have the snakes best interests at heart.
This is a big can of worms being opened here.. I suggest everyone read the co-hab threads and make up your own minds..
But my $0.02 would be that you shouldn't risk the snakes health and lives like this.. I'm not saying WILL happen, but it's just not really worth the risk. |
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 20:31:33
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Hi Emmerz :)
You do have a fabulous collection of snakes there. Many people do cohab perfectly happily, and it is your choice. But I would like to point out that although there is a 'breeding season' corns do actually breed all year round, so the male should be kept separate from any females under 3yrs, 300g, 3ft in length as otherwise you risk the possibility of young females becoming eggbound and expensive vet bills/death of your females. Just because other people do something does not mean it is safe, and pet shops are weel known for giving out bad and dangerous advice!! They are all lovely though, and I don't want to scare you away from the forum, just please, please read that thread and then make your decisions :) |
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 20:43:52
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Awww, they are all very, very gorgeous!!
However, I would have to agree about splitting them up. Having learnt the hard way I now will NOT trust popping or probing 100% until the snake is proven as either male or female through *breeding*. I have bought males that turned out to be females, and vice versa, even from trusted and well respected breeders. This has led to females being impregnated when they weren't meant to be, but luckily I do not introduce ANYTHING to another snake until its at least 2 years old and the right size for breeding. I only have 1 pair of proven females co-habiting atm, both the same size, roughly the same weight, in a 4 foot viv with 6 hides, heat mat in the middle to provide 2 cool ends, and 3 water bowls.
It really is a very risky game to play. There is *always* the chance that your snakes have been mis-sexed, and that could lead to underage breeding, which is hugely dangerous and can lead to the death of a snake. Males are easily ready to breed at a year old, and females can be bred then too. I would strongly advise against re-introducing the male until ALL females are old enough ann big enough to breed, and even then I wouldn't keep them together year round.
The sharing of hides can also be indicative of competition for the most desirable spots in the viv- its not affection, they are not friends.
Shops keep snakes in groups because of space issues. They advise that its ok to co-habit because they make more sales this way. Responsible shops do not give out this advice.
Please, please think about it some more, for the safety of your snakes and your own peace of mind. |
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1.1 Hogg island boas
1.0 Dwarf Burmese python
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Emmerz
Hatchling
166 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 21:08:26
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Thanks guys, this is all a very big shock to me, I have seen no signs of aggression between any of the snakes? It's a very peaceful tank. Would it be okay to put the youngest two females together, two females in a tank each and the male on his own?xxx
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 21:21:59
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it would be better to keep them all seperate until they are adults. and then you will have them all seperate and there owudl be no reason to put them back together. but as temporary measure you can house two females together but you cannot be sure they arethe same sex.
if money for housing is an issue you can use tubs to house them, and have more than one on a mat.
if you need any help with set ups and sizes we are al here to help. x |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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Emmerz
Hatchling
166 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 21:33:33
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Thanks:-) The tanks I have would be far too big to have one baby corn in. ( 4 Foot Long & 2 Foot High) - I Have Two Of These.
I Have Two Tanks (if you can call them that) a little bit like this - http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=perspex+vivarium&start=119&um=1&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=624&tbm=isch&tbnid=x1H31_6XZXqqaM:&imgrefurl=http://www.reptiletanksforsale.com/reptile-tanks-plastic/&docid=-sUSWoPdFhJ8UM&imgurl=http://www.jenspetproducts.com.au/images/lrgimage/695.JPG&w=500&h=375&ei=kFF_T4e0L8nH0QXz8vjjBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=352&vpy=246&dur=4820&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=189&ty=159&sig=111997648593463155198&page=6&tbnh=138&tbnw=243&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:119,i:62
And then The 3 Year Old Would Stay Where She Is!xx |
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Emmerz
Hatchling
166 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 21:35:07
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| The link above doesn't work - like feeding tanks? (12inches long & 7/8inches High) |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 21:38:44
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that link doesnt work, not even if you copy and paste.
heres what you do, go to the diy on the furum and check out the divider threads. you can put a divider in both the 4ft vivs to make 4 2 ft vivs which will give you another 6 - 12 months to sort two larger vivs out. adult corns are fine in 3ft vivs.
and leave the bigger femal where she is x |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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Emmerz
Hatchling
166 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 21:44:11
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| Right - I'll wait until tomorrow & tell my dad. Thanks for all your help much appreciated!<3 |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2012 : 21:46:33
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| tis cool, where abouts do you live hun? |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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