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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3796 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  18:50:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A few weeks back my gravid golddust motley, Aurelia, managed to escape from her viv. Its the bottom unit on a home-made wardrobe conversion, with sliding glass doors on plastic runners. The doors are tall, wide and heavy. Upon inspection I saw that the wood at the side had angled slightly, leaving a gap a few MM across which she had pushed open.

I fixed this with plastic stripping glued down the side of the wood, and once dry she went back in, having been found a few hours after we discovered she was missing.

A few days later she was out again. More searching revealed a gap about 1mm across at the bottom of the plastic stripping- although tiny, it was evidently enough for her to get the tip of her nose into and push open again.

This time we didn't find her. On Friday, I received a call from my landlord who told me that a 2 metre long "dangerous" snake had been found in the offices directly below our flat. Aurelia was only about 3 feet and soft as butter.

It took 4 teams of police officers and the RSPCA to "contain" her, during which time someone dropped a box on her and caused her to prolapse. She was taken by the police to a local vets, who looked after her until I arrived to pick her up. She seemed well enough, tongue flicking, no flat or squashed areas, strength all through her body, and the prolapse was small. The vets she was at, having no idea about reps, had spoken to a reptile vet who seemingly was happy to be treated at home by me.

She was soaked in a sugar solution and the prolapse disappeared within 2 hours, whereupon she was then put into a clean RUB lined with paper. She was doing well.

Upon speaking to my downstairs neighbour, an Indian lady, it became clear that all the drama was the result of a lot of hysteria and ignorance- the police had been told the snake was "trying to eat her baby" and was 2 metres long, hence the massive overkill. She then asked me if the snake had been killed, and was very annoyed when I told her it hadn't.

(Don't get me wrong, I can understand her shock and was mortified by what happened, just slightly taken aback by her attitude.)

Well, it would seem she got her wish. Aurelia is dead. I am totally gutted and despite spending well over £100 and most of my Saturday buying viv locks, door wedges and new RUB's for the little'uns I am totally paranoid about it happening again.

Moral of the story- never underestimate a determined snake, never leave a gap unplugged, and check for gaps regularly. It just isn't worth the risk.

9.11 Cornsnakes
1.1 Hogg island boas
1.0 Dwarf Burmese python

Location: Watford
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  19:01:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh no, I am so so sorry, not much more I can say really :(

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serena_08
Yearling

United Kingdom
784 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  19:28:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
:(

R.I.P. Aurelia x

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1.0.0 Western Hognose: C*ntyB*ll*cks
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paulie78
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2331 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  19:30:02  Show Profile  Visit paulie78's Homepage  Reply with Quote
omg im so sorry to hear that and grr at stupid pig headed minsiformed idiotic people !!! really sorry for your loss its a tragedgy


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Dancross0
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1315 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  19:30:39  Show Profile  Visit Dancross0's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sorry to hear about that. RIP Aurelia.



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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3796 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  19:44:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks guys, I'm very upset about it.

Not only was she one of my favourite snakes but I feel responsible for her death by not being more vigilant. I know mistakes get made, but I've never made a mistake before that has resulted in the death of such a sweet natured and (dare I say it) intelligent snake. Of course, her eggs are now no good also.

RIP


9.11 Cornsnakes
1.1 Hogg island boas
1.0 Dwarf Burmese python

Location: Watford
Website- http://rassnakes.yolasite.com/
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Mamma
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4494 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  19:54:32  Show Profile  Visit Mamma's Homepage  Reply with Quote


R.I.P



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kev 5
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3065 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  19:57:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
sorry for you're loss,she was a lovely snake



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tordyjo
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2036 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  19:59:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm sorry that is so sad, RIP aurelia

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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3215 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  20:15:55  Show Profile  Click to see Donnie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Sorry to hear of your loss

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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5292 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  20:20:50  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
That is heart breaking! :( :( she was a stunning lass

RIP Aurelia, go find all the other lost snakeys to play with at rainbow bridge xx


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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
8403 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  20:24:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So so sorry


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1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3796 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  20:33:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just got off the phone with the police trying to find out more- its all a bit sketchy but the report states the snake was injured when they got there, and that my downstairs neighbours had dropped the box on it.

I'll speak to them tomorrow to see what happened.

I can understand their fear, however, if the woman was as frightened as she made out ...... why not leave the building and wait for help to arrive?! Rather than attempt to contain, and ultimately kill my snake.

9.11 Cornsnakes
1.1 Hogg island boas
1.0 Dwarf Burmese python

Location: Watford
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Katie.Dublin
Sub Adult

Ireland
1560 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  20:43:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Absolutely gutted for you :( Stupid neighbours. The poor girl.


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0.1 hypo Motley - Spunky
0.1 MBK - Tequila. RIP
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  20:58:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You cant blame the neighbour for reacting how she did, yes its a response that shows a lack of knowledge of snakes and its terrible an animal was hurt and this lead to its death but as the educated ones in this subject it is our responsibility to ensure the safety of our animals.

In a vivarium there are a few weaknesses when it comes to escaping, the doors, the vents, and the wire holes, a few very simple measures can be taken to make a vivarium virtually escape proof the most important of which is to immobilise the doors, if you give them an inch they will always take a mile.

Dont get me wrong it is terrible that a very beautiful little snake has lost its life and I'm sorry for your loss.

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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3556 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  22:22:55  Show Profile  Click to see kdlang's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Oh SB!! I am so so sorry to hear about your loss. I can understand how devastated you were to find her. Unfortunately there are always going to be people who are scared of snakes and thus panic when they come across one unexpectedly.

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Kez
Hatchling

United Kingdom
378 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  22:45:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm so very sorry to hear of your tragic loss of Aurelia, it's really such a heartbreaking story. I understand someone would be scared by a loose snake, especially if they have a baby, but surely common sense would kick in and tell them that after looking, a 3' Corn could not physically 'eat' their baby!

Thinking of you at this awful time and hoping that remembering the happy times that your beautiful girl gave you can help to bring you through

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0.1.0 - CB10 Ultramel Motley - Smudge
1.0.0 - Leopard Gecko - Ziggy
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nickyff
Yearling

507 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2012 :  23:17:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm so sorry for your loss - she was a beautiful snake.

i think the "moral", or learning point here though, is to talk to neighbours- because such a large percentage of the population are misinformed, inexperienced, ignorant and fearful, it's probably best to pre-empt any possible disasters like this-
let neighbours know that any snakes they might see at any future point (by whatever accident) are utterly harmless pet snakes, and give them a contact number for you, so before they ring police, RSPCA, whoever, you can deal with the situation safely, without any injury to your pet. I'm sure we've all seen the story of the woman who found an MBK in her cupboard, called the RSPCA and the RSPCA woman who turned up freaked and called for back-up, basically because she had no experience/training in the handling of totally harmless pet snakes and apparently thought it was a dangerous rattlesnake. ie we can't rely on so-called animal "experts" to be what they claim, when it comes to all things herp....
Reading between the lines of this story, I hate to say it but I suspect that the neighbour wasn't trying to 'contain' Aurelia at all.

Definitely a learning point for all of us- we love them, but our neighbours do not.

Very Sad.
I'm so sorry for you SB. and for Aurelia, that she managed to get further than the safe boundaries of your home.

and you thought there was no such thing as a stupid question....



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nusnakemum
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1612 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2012 :  09:07:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oh a very sad story and i am so sorry SB, thinking of you


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Hissyfit
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2214 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2012 :  10:48:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What a terrible thing to happen to your poor girl.
RIP Aurelia

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Casta
Hatchling

United Kingdom
335 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2012 :  11:46:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thats a bloody shame. ignorance makes me abhor the human race... but what can you do. probably why i choose to spend a lot of my time with animals and educating people about them. really sorry for your loss x

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