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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
 Posted - 19/01/2012 : 00:03:27
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| poor little guy. |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2012 : 00:09:19
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| is this a simmer problem to what the spider royals have |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2012 : 00:10:38
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| sorry didnt finishe that. what i was ment to finish with was. ...... spider royals have with the head wobble |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2012 : 00:17:05
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| to a fashion, however the spider wobble has always been there the first spider cought in the wild had it, whereas its been bred into corns unfortunately and likewise can be stopped. |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2012 : 00:20:48
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| and you stop in plainly by testing for it if positive then not breeding that snake any more. camt there be something done nationally or even internationlly to make it illegal to not test and breed. can this spread to all morphs |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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Emmy1
Yearling
707 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2012 : 00:23:52
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| I was just going to post to ask if stargazing was only found in corn snakes. I understand it's a neurological condition, but has this condition been brought on because of siblings breeding together, as sometimes breeders do to carry a specific gene? Or was it there from the start? I think that question makes sense... :/ |
0.1.0 Anery Corn Snake
1.0.0 Normal Western Hognosed Snake
1.0.0 Albino California Kingsnake
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Wildtype, Hypo)
0.0.3 Shubunkin Goldfish |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2012 : 00:27:27
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| thats a point actually. with the rat snake being used to creat the creamsicle and (so ive heard) the scaless. could it have been past thru them cross breedings. also what other snakes have been crossed with corns. |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2012 : 20:45:26
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| it horrible when these bad genes cause these affects is it a major problem finding all stargazzers and het gazzers. wud it be an international problem |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2012 : 20:59:55
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| It is already Global marc, started in the US and we will see more and more appearing over the next few months |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2012 : 21:07:53
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| bloody hell when was it first noticed then |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2012 : 21:13:30
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| since the 90's |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2012 : 21:29:06
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| so in twenty years how long they been trying to stop it getting worse |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2012 : 21:36:09
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| sorry for the questions just like learning things. if i do no i ask lol |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2012 : 21:38:39
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honestly dont know, but isnt really all that long a time is only 20 year so maybe 6-7 generations.
Not sure how long folks have been testing, but has been getting worse over the last few years so more testing going on now.
Unfortunately not enough though, and still something that is not very widely known about. |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 19/01/2012 : 21:53:09
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| how can anyone help with this situation. say i want to help and was give the infomation |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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