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Redshift Spec
Hatchling

379 Posts

Posted - 15/01/2012 :  23:30:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Guys,

I've got Frank and he is 6 months old. Currently he is in a little Faunarium but I really really want to get a vivarium (36x18x18) to house him that would look awesome on the shelf he is situated. When would be the soonest i could get away with upgrading his house? The chap in the shop said about a year but he also said he only needs feeding once a week and only needs 1 hide because he burrows in the aspen(which contradicts all I've read on here).

Again thank you for all your help (I've been reading a lot on here)

Huw

Frank (Amel Corn 1.0)
Felicity (Flick) (Normal Het Albino BCI 0.1)
Jack (Sunglow BCI 1.0)
Maisie (Hypo het Albino BCI 0.1)
Silver (Snow Corn 0.1)

scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
8403 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  02:05:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I could be wrong, but if there is LOADS of hiding places, fake plants (dunelm mill does fantastic fake ivy/plants really cheap!) aswell as both hides, then it should be ok


0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes
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garrie
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1148 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  09:07:33  Show Profile  Visit garrie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
"generally" it is best to move corns up based on size rather than age (adult-ness is determined by size with snakes), with the general rule being that the length+width of Viv/faun should be no bigger than the size of the corn. However, as Scottishbluebird has said - many Corns (including my own) moved up a large (nicely packed out) viv before they were supposed to and have been perfectly fine. Just make sure you do fill it well with hides etc and keep an eye of behavioral changes.



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Mamma
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4494 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  10:38:17  Show Profile  Visit Mamma's Homepage  Reply with Quote
echoing again what others have said. If its packed out with loads of hides, foliage etc then the snake might be ok. I have upgraded snakes to vivs and they have been ok with plenty of coverage and hides.



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Redshift Spec
Hatchling

379 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  11:35:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That sounds good. A further question is would i need to leave him a week to get used to the new viv?

Frank (Amel Corn 1.0)
Felicity (Flick) (Normal Het Albino BCI 0.1)
Jack (Sunglow BCI 1.0)
Maisie (Hypo het Albino BCI 0.1)
Silver (Snow Corn 0.1)
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Okeetee Mick
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2308 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  12:12:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Viv size is fine as others have said, and yes a week at least.

0.1.0 Okeetee (Sookie) 0.1.0 Powder (Luna) 0.1.0 Bloodred (Arlene) 0.1.0 Caramel Stripe (Tara)
0.1.0 Ghost (Crystal) 0.1.0 Caramel (Jessica) 0.1.0 Lavender Stripe (Portia) 1.0.0 Platinum (Godric)
0.1.0 Thayers King (Lettie Mae) 0.1.0 Albino Blairs King (Lorena) 0.1.0 Russian Ratsnakes (Pam)
0.1.0 Korean Ratsnake (Katerina) 1.0.0 Russian Ratsnake (Lafayette)
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Redshift Spec
Hatchling

379 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  12:28:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
awesome, I'll leave it a few months as he has been uprooted, moved, shoved into a new place and has these two giants peering at him from a distance when ever he goes for a climb! Thanks for the info :)

Frank (Amel Corn 1.0)
Felicity (Flick) (Normal Het Albino BCI 0.1)
Jack (Sunglow BCI 1.0)
Maisie (Hypo het Albino BCI 0.1)
Silver (Snow Corn 0.1)
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Hissyfit
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2214 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  13:41:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm no expert, but a 36x18x18 is huge, and a 6 month old would be lost in there.If you really want to go for it you might want to put a divider in at 2ft, let him get used to the space in that before letting him have the whole space to himself. I have the same size viv for Voldemort, and have a divider in at 2ft, he's 17 months old and 36" long, but I still feel it would be too big for him at the moment.

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Spreebok
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1135 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  13:48:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd just stick to a faun for now, less chance of losing him then, especially at that size :P
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
8403 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  14:56:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I should have added that really small snakes seem to have a habit of escaping a viv, you serioulsly have to watch for gaps that you wouldnt think they could fit through


0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes
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smiffy89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
342 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  15:09:58  Show Profile  Click to see smiffy89's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
as bluebird said escaping betwwen glass is an issue(i learnt this 1 the hard way) you could allways put a divider in the vivarium and gradually move it along as corn gets bigger
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Redshift Spec
Hatchling

379 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  18:17:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The divider sounds like an awesome idea! Thanks for your input guys. I'm going to keep Frank in his Faun for a few months then look into getting a viv and putting a divider in.

Frank (Amel Corn 1.0)
Felicity (Flick) (Normal Het Albino BCI 0.1)
Jack (Sunglow BCI 1.0)
Maisie (Hypo het Albino BCI 0.1)
Silver (Snow Corn 0.1)
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Auld Baldy
Ikea's Pimp

United Kingdom
1619 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  18:44:05  Show Profile  Visit Auld Baldy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There is a "How To: Snake divider" in the DIY section. Hope it helps.

OOPS!! That should be a Viv Divider.

http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19448


1.0.0: Miami Normal: Taggart
0.0.1: Carolina Normal: Wee Woody
0.0.1: Grey Rat Snake: Mirkey
0.0.1: Amel Corn: Blaze
1.0.0: Carpet Python: Vambo
0.0.1: MBK: Fester
0.0.1: Florida King Snake : Rattler (Rattle & Hum)
0.0.1. California King Snake: El Diablo Diego
0.2.0 Tarantulas : Ermintrude & Euphemia.

Edited by - Auld Baldy on 16/01/2012 18:45:35
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smiffy89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
342 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  19:01:50  Show Profile  Click to see smiffy89's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Auld Baldy

There is a "How To: Snake divider" in the DIY section. Hope it helps.

OOPS!! That should be a Viv Divider.

http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19448



was worried when i read that bit
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Redshift Spec
Hatchling

379 Posts

Posted - 16/01/2012 :  19:52:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Auld Baldy

There is a "How To: Snake divider" in the DIY section. Hope it helps.

OOPS!! That should be a Viv Divider.

http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19448



Is that how you make new snakes? Like worms! Chop em in half and both ends live? Does the tail turn into a head?

On a serious note, Frank had his first feed with us just now..... it.... was..... awesome! He struck and constricted.


Frank (Amel Corn 1.0)
Felicity (Flick) (Normal Het Albino BCI 0.1)
Jack (Sunglow BCI 1.0)
Maisie (Hypo het Albino BCI 0.1)
Silver (Snow Corn 0.1)
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