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Horse
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
11 Posts

Posted - 17/12/2011 :  15:09:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have just put a 'furry' in the viv for Colin's first feed. Have put it by the hollow log where he sits. Its been ther fro about an hour now and he aint shown any interest...this is the first time i have fed hime ...is this usual or should i be doing something else.....?

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oakleyman18
Yearling

828 Posts

Posted - 17/12/2011 :  16:40:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You should try getting him out of his Viv, putting him in a seperate container or something and feeding him in that. A couple of advantages to this:

1) Eliminates risk of him ingesting any of the substrate,
2) Makes sure he doesn't associate activity in his Viv with food- otherwise he may find your hand looking rather tasty after a while

Usually they can smell the food, but if this is your first feed with him, he may still be a little shy and staying put until he feels a little more comfortable. That being the case, it will mostly likely be nommed by the morning when you have a peek, but I'd still suggest getting him out to do it. How long have you had him?



Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst"
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Horse
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
11 Posts

Posted - 17/12/2011 :  18:32:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
About 3 days...if i leave his scoff in his viv till morning and it ait been eat, will it be ok to use it to feed him ina seperate container or will i need a fresh mouse?

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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3796 Posts

Posted - 17/12/2011 :  18:32:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Personally, I think the whole "food-hand association" is a total load of nonsense. Not a single one of mine bites when you go to get them out, and they are *always* fed in their enclosure. No one seems to consider that if snakes associate their surroundings or a human hand with feeding to the extent that they bite when you go to handle them, then surely they should bite the hand when you go to get them out because you could be taking them to the feeding tub...... and there is just as much chance of being bitten when you go to put them back.

Removing a new snake to feed it in a tub can also be stressful for them. Personally I would leave him in his enclosure.

If you are worried about substrate ingestion (which can be largely eliminated by feeding totally dry prey items) then put down a piece of paper or tissue first.

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Edited by - SexyBear77 on 17/12/2011 18:34:42
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Horse
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
11 Posts

Posted - 17/12/2011 :  18:42:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Re moving him to anoter box to feed....I have read/been told not to disturb him for 48 hrs as this may cause him to regurgitate,( or however u spell it), his food.....how do u get round this??

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oakleyman18
Yearling

828 Posts

Posted - 17/12/2011 :  19:13:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you've only had him three days it's not really any surprise he's not coming out for food, he may well be just too insecure around his new home to feed yet. As a general rule of thumb leave 7 days before feeding or handling or having any interaction with the snake. I'd wait until mid next week before trying again personally. And then, obviously, with a fresh mouse.

SB77, that's fine, that's your opinion, and for the most part I agree. In fact my first snake I always fed it in it's viv for the first 8 years of it's life and never had any major problems. Well I didn't, but it would always come out quickly tasting the air and anyones hands who came in, and this scared a lot of people, even though they weren't going to get bitten. Obviously once he knew it wasn't food, he was fine, but this "come out and have a look" attitude can put people off, so personally, I now avoid it. Also, my snake used to seriously hit the mouse, so laying one piece of paper down rarely helped, he would always end up somewhere difference once he'd gotten it. Just a personal preference as I said, I just prefer to remove any risks.



Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst"

Edited by - oakleyman18 on 17/12/2011 19:25:13
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Horse
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
11 Posts

Posted - 17/12/2011 :  19:27:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
AWESOME....just watched Colin have his first scoff..........wife glanced in his viv and noticed din dins had gone...there it was...... mouse half in his mouth and he was walking it in nice and slow...seen it no end of times on tele but to see it raw and in the flesh.....now laying side of his log with a nice carbunkle moving down his length.....stroll on next feeding time.......

When he does a dump, (which he hasnt yet), will it be firm or liquid....this hobby is best yet..well nearly as good as fishing....

oakleyman..picture of snake you are holding..same markings as mine..was told it was a califorina corn..is that right?

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oakleyman18
Yearling

828 Posts

Posted - 17/12/2011 :  19:31:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nope, that's a Brazilian Rainbow Boa (see: www.therainbowboa.co.uk). Very different to most cornsnakes. They have some cool skin refraction (as seen in the pic) which turns some areas of their skin green/blue, very funky

Anyway on topic, glad he fed, thats good news And to answer your Q, it'll come out as liquid, sort of sloppy, but it dries, so by the time you see it it'll most likely be a bit squidgey..



Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst"
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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5599 Posts

Posted - 17/12/2011 :  19:51:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad he's fed for you. You just need to look out for a smally bird poo next.


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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
8403 Posts

Posted - 17/12/2011 :  21:45:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad he fed for you!


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