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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1504 Posts

Posted - 27/11/2011 :  23:58:54  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
When i boufht my first corn i looked into what to look for and was told not to buy a corn that had its back bone showing. however my female amel has always had a ridge going down her back. her stats which i recorded earlier are. Firstly my female amel (shelly) d.o.h 14/4/08 = weight.552.9g ,length113cm/ 44.5"/3.8ft. heres a picture of her i have just taken. theres a glare off the glass but you can see what i mean. heres also a picture of a year ago and you can see it there aswell


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY

Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן

United Kingdom
8173 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2011 :  02:42:46  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The backbone ridge is usually very prominent in underweight snakes.
However, in your pics the backbone is visible when the snake is bending and using it's muscles (as in the top pic) or when it's body is being a 'bridge' across another part of it's body (bottom pic).
In both the pics the snake looks like it's a good size/shape and it's only when it's forcing it's body to do something or when something is pressing from underneath.

Shorter version: Your snake doesn't look underweight in the bottom pic, the top pic isn't clear enough to make a judgement.

-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon

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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1504 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2011 :  08:10:15  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Ok ill take another pic just to be sure. she not undrr weight she gets a jumbo every 7 days


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
2901 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2011 :  09:05:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
looks more like the ridge of muscle to me!

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2011 :  09:56:47  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
BS, in my morbidly obese snake you can see the "back bone rid" too which is just muscle and fat lol. Underweight snakes have it rising, normal and chubby snakes have a dint where their backbone is like yours has.



A very special super, duper thanks for K :3
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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1504 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2011 :  11:02:50  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Ok lovely im just looking for the good news that i think ive got now thank you everyone


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1504 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2011 :  17:48:18  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Heres another picture when she was on tbe bed


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1504 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2011 :  18:36:36  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2011 :  18:39:55  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
she looks more on the chubby side than underweight :)


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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3556 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2011 :  22:00:11  Show Profile  Click to see kdlang's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
To my eyes she looks overweight. Not only does she have the fat deposits either side of her spine but she has very distinct hips. I would say that 1 jumbo every 7 days is way too much. I would be careful that if this is the female you are planning to breed then being overweight can be just as dangerous as being underweight.

4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire

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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 28/11/2011 :  23:24:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aww a chubby little snake. Its not massive but its on the fatter side of perfect. As above maybe a rethink on feeding is required, a bit smaller or a bit longer between feeds.

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2011 :  21:49:58  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
if you are planning on breeding her, please rethink. She is too podgy for her body to cope with pushing eggs out and will be at a vastly increased chance of becoming eggbound which in most cases is fatal.


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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1504 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2011 :  22:22:52  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Ok i will put her on a diet that last picture was when i first got her i found it on my fone. that was taken about year and half ago. just put that on the coz of the ridge. tommorrow i will take a fresh picture of her. but she ate on sunday first time in 2 weeks


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1504 Posts

Posted - 29/11/2011 :  22:28:05  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Ive just xhecked that last pic was taken on 18/08/2010


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1504 Posts

Posted - 30/11/2011 :  19:57:32  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
this was just taken. im just thinking about holding her food till end of december or even mid january. just spoke to the bloke whos shop i go to and he said he stopped feeding 2 weeks ago


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
2901 Posts

Posted - 30/11/2011 :  20:41:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whats her weight and length?? she only looks like shes nudging 3 foot, if that.

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1504 Posts

Posted - 30/11/2011 :  21:38:15  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Its all at the top she 3.8 ft and 552g and 2008 hatched


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 30/11/2011 :  22:55:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Blimey Spot is 3'1" and 250 Grams. I consider Spot to be as round as I'd want him to get and his food has been cut to every 10 days.



That is a picture from today, corn snakes are slender bodied, I dont want Spot to get any fatter, just bigger in proportion to his length.

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3556 Posts

Posted - 30/11/2011 :  23:08:57  Show Profile  Click to see kdlang's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think those that stop feeding are the ones who brumate their corns for breeding.

My amel was 100g less at that length and I think he is looking a little portly. Currently he is being fed 2 large mice every 2-3 weeks.

4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire

www.support-dogs.org.uk
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Emmy1
Yearling

707 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2011 :  00:02:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You see a back ridge on pretty much every snake. I've never heard that one before. I remember someone asking me once if 'you have to buy your snake based on how well it flicks it's tongue?'. Your snake appears healthy and well fed, so I wouldn't worry at all. Clearly what your doing feeding/ watering/ handling/ set up wise has a good effect on your snake.



0.1.0 Anery Corn Snake
1.0.0 Normal Western Hognosed Snake
1.0.0 Albino California Kingsnake
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Wildtype, Hypo)
0.0.3 Shubunkin Goldfish
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 01/12/2011 :  19:31:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Emmy1

You see a back ridge on pretty much every snake.


True, there is no muscle over the top of a back bone of a snake everything attaches at the side. The ridge will be very slight though unless its obese (dips in) or under weight (sticks out).

quote:
Originally posted by Emmy1

I remember someone asking me once if 'you have to buy your snake based on how well it flicks it's tongue?'. Your snake appears healthy and well fed, so I wouldn't worry at all. Clearly what your doing feeding/ watering/ handling/ set up wise has a good effect on your snake.



I would worry slightly, it is overweight, its not massively obese yet but action does need to be taken to bring its weight down. You do this very slowly over many months though, crash diets dont work in reptiles. A reduction in the size of mouse is probably the best bet and you only want a few grams at the most to be coming off. Its care is not in question, it is very well looked after it just needs to shed a few pounds to be on the safe side, you definitely dont want it getting any fatter.

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky
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