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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 27/11/2011 : 22:13:27
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Just done some prebreeding season measuring up. and i think their looking good see what yous all think.
Firstly my female amel (shelly) 14/4/08 = 552.9g ,113cm/ 44.5"/3.8ft
secondly my male amel (sid) 25/06/09= 397.6g , 103cm/40.5"/ 3.4ft
thirdly my female motley ghost (silva) 07/04/11= 128.1g, 75cm/29.5"/2.5ft
Last but not least my carolina stripe (simon) 10/7/11 =12.3g 38cm/15"/1.3ft
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quick question thou. will silva and simon be ready to breed this season? i no male can breed earlier but silva is growing so quick and bulking nicely |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 22:18:05
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| I no the rule of 3 (300g 3 ft in length and 3years old) but she'll be big enough surely. obviously i will check again in feb and march |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 22:37:03
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I slightly confused, is that hatch date then weight?
Silva wont be ready for breeding this coming season from her weight 128g she needs to more than double her weight in 6 months, cant see that happening.Also there is no way simon will be ready 12.5g. Thats just a hatchie and if it is the date of hatch, I wouldnt be planning to breed silva and simon for at least 2 more years |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 22:40:52
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| The stats are date of hatch then weight the lengths in 3 different measurements. yeah simon is a hatchie. |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 22:42:00
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Originally posted by marc_sg
The stats are date of hatch then weight the lengths in 3 different measurements. yeah simon is a hatchie.
so is Silva, Silva wont be ready till 2014 at the earliest, the male possibly a year earlier. |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 22:48:23
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| Oki doki i cant wait to see their results. but my female laid a 2 beautiful clutches last year total of 48 babies lots 5 eggs and 1 was developed but dead from first clutch.left it in the incubator till all the second clutch had started hatching. it was twice the size of the other so was thinking twins. but much have absorbed to much water |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 22:49:36
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| That was the female amel shelly |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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yola
Hatchling
United Kingdom
171 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 23:32:44
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Definatly wouldnt breed from your female until shes atleast 3 or even better 4.
I know from experience unfortunately, from an unexpected mating (from my 3yr old snow girl and 2yr old boy) producing 2 beautiful eggs (that turned out to what I suspect are avalanche) they hatched successfully and it totally took it out of her and she even double clutched and the other lot were crapy ones, a few weeks later she passed away  , I was soooo upset.
If you breed her at 3yrs old n my eyes shes got to be a pretty big girl to beable to cope with it, and also not forgetting the possibility that she mite double clutch weather you like it or not (you cant know if a snake will double clutch).
My advise would be please dont risk the health of your female, it really isn't worth risking. |
With 27 beautiful corns I definitely have snakeitus :-) |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 23:45:59
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Originally posted by yola
Definatly wouldnt breed from your female until shes atleast 3 or even better 4.
I know from experience unfortunately, from an unexpected mating (from my 3yr old snow girl and 2yr old boy) producing 2 beautiful eggs (that turned out to what I suspect are avalanche) they hatched successfully and it totally took it out of her and she even double clutched and the other lot were crapy ones, a few weeks later she passed away , I was soooo upset.
If you breed her at 3yrs old n my eyes shes got to be a pretty big girl to beable to cope with it, and also not forgetting the possibility that she mite double clutch weather you like it or not (you cant know if a snake will double clutch).
My advise would be please dont risk the health of your female, it really isn't worth risking.
i deffinately will never risk her life so the sake of a few eggs. i would never want to put an animal thru uneeded stress i promise you that thats why i asked to know so i can seperate her from the male from january |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2011 : 23:49:23
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Originally posted by marc_sg
i deffinately will never risk her life so the sake of a few eggs. i would never want to put an animal thru uneeded stress i promise you that thats why i asked to know so i can seperate her from the male from january
If they are cohabbing split them up now, corns have no concept of time of year, although it is unlikely they will breed at that age, there are other issues to contend with especially in small snakes. |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 28/11/2011 : 00:05:18
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[i]Originally posted by gmac
If they are cohabbing split them up now, corns have no concept of time of year, although it is unlikely they will breed at that age, there are other issues to contend with especially in small snakes.
What issues is there just out of interested because i really dont want to stress them out |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 28/11/2011 : 10:06:19
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Mine when I cohabbed laid eggs eggs whenever they wanted, be in summer, spring, autumn or winter. They will be more stressed cohbabbing than you moving one away.
Just because the girl snake could be big enough doesn't mean she shoudl reed, I mean to put it into context maybe slightly warped but a 10 year old girl is big enough and can have babies, doesn't mean it's pychically healthly for yet to do so. Early breeidng can also stunt female growth. |
   
A very special super, duper thanks for K :3 |
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 28/11/2011 : 11:00:59
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| Ok i will wait till shes 3/4 till i breed her. |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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marc_sg
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1504 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2012 : 13:20:16
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| hi just an update for the last month nearly, my male and female amels have had 4/5 locks so i thought id weigh my female last nite. 624g at 4 years old. |
0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal
R.I.P SHELLY
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