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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 24/10/2011 :  12:45:41  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hi all, i'm starting to get my head around morphs, not that great with ID yet tho, but could someone please explain what hets are??

Thanks in advance

Scaly xx (and Sonny)

1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
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Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx

a33272
our battery charger

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Posted - 24/10/2011 :  13:05:48  Show Profile  Visit a33272's Homepage  Send a33272 an AOL message  Click to see a33272's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i know bugger all but this may help

http://www.corncalc.com/glossary.html



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polarchick
Egg

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Posted - 24/10/2011 :  13:08:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Het is short for heterozygous - a snake (in fact all organisms with DNA) has 2 copies of each gene coding for a particular characteristic, these can be the same (called homozygous) or different (heterozygous). Most corn morph genes are recessive to normal, ie if the snake is heterozygous (has a normal gene and a recessive morph gene) then it will look normal. So although it carries the morph gene it looks normal. However if it is mated with another snake with the same morph gene then it has a chance of producing offspring which are homozygous for the morph gene, ie look like the morph. So a snake het for (for example) amelanism will look normal, but carries a copy of the amel gene and is capable of producing amel offspring if mated with a snake which also carries the amel gene.

There is quite a good genetics tutorial at

http://serpwidgets.com/main/genetics01

Hope this helps,

Sue


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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 24/10/2011 :  13:13:40  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i think my brain just exploded lol thanks :) that makes things a lot easier

1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
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polarchick
Egg

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Posted - 24/10/2011 :  13:20:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry Scaly, it is a bit complicated and my explanation sounds a bit garbled now I have read it back to myself!!!

Genetics does start to make sense once you understand the basics, I have the advantage that I studied genetics as part of my degree... some time ago now but it's still in there somewhere!


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mkmattyk
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Posted - 24/10/2011 :  13:25:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the way i got told and the way always see it, (and dont get me wrong im still learning) is......

my mum is blonde and my dad is brunette, and im blonde so... in the losest poss way im blonde het brunette (hair wise away), i know corns are much much much more difficult but the principal is still there, they are genes that you get from your mum or dad that normally wouldnt show but you can pass to your childern

i hope this helps even a little bit

Edited by - mkmattyk on 24/10/2011 13:32:28
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polarchick
Egg

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Posted - 24/10/2011 :  13:31:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's kind of right, although another explanation could be that your dad could be brunette het blonde so that you got a blonde gene from each of your parents and you are in fact homozygous for blonde. It depends on which of the genes is dominant. Hair colour can be quite complicated as it is controlled by more than one gene...


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mkmattyk
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Posted - 24/10/2011 :  13:36:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks polarchick, but thats how i could have explained in it simplist form. (not saying anyone is dumb on here, if anything its me thats dumb)

Edited by - mkmattyk on 24/10/2011 13:37:25
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polarchick
Egg

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Posted - 24/10/2011 :  13:40:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mkmattyk

they are genes that you get from your mum or dad that normally wouldnt show but you can pass to your childern
No dumbness here mkmattyk, that line in your post is spot on!


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eeji
The Morph Master

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Posted - 24/10/2011 :  19:36:23  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
To expand on Sues post a little more....

quote:
Originally posted by polarchick

Het is short for heterozygous - a snake (in fact all organisms with DNA) has 2 copies of each gene coding for a particular characteristic, one inherited from each parent. these can be the same (both normal or both the same mutation - called homozygous) or different (one normal one mutated or two different mutations - heterozygous).
Most corn morph genes are recessive to normal, ie if the snake is heterozygous (has a normal gene and a recessive morph gene) then it will look normal. So although it carries the morph gene it looks normal. However if it is mated with another snake with the same morph gene then it has a chance of inheriting that same mutated gene from each parent and producing offspring which are homozygous for the morph gene, ie look like the morph. So a snake het for (for example) amelanism will look normal, but carries a copy of the amel gene and is capable of producing amel offspring if mated with a snake which also carries the amel gene.

There is quite a good genetics tutorial at

http://serpwidgets.com/main/genetics01

Hope this helps,

Sue



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