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dtookey90
Hatchling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/10/2011 :  21:52:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What size does a female need to be for breeding and how does it work I have heard of the rule of three for females but why do they have to be three foot long, 300g and 3yrs old??

gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/10/2011 :  21:55:00  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
so they're physically mature enough and are carry enough weight to cope with being gravid and laying eggs

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yola
Hatchling

United Kingdom
171 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2011 :  22:00:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I lost a female snow that was 3yrs old this year, I left her in with my boy who was only 2 and thought wasn't mature enough or big enough, I caught them mating unfortunately.
She layed 2 lovely eggs that hatched on time. Unfortunatley she double cluched and layed a load of duff eggs, and because of this we lost her, it just took it out of her. Soooo please think very carefully before puting a male with your female, you have got to make sure she is of the right weight, length etc to be able to possibly lay 2 clutches

With 27 beautiful corns I definitely have snakeitus :-)
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3556 Posts

Posted - 07/10/2011 :  11:50:43  Show Profile  Click to see kdlang's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
So sorry to hear that Yola. Did you keep the babies that she had?

The 3ft long and 300g minimum is pretty important. Producing eggs takes an awful lot out of the poor females and if they are undersize then they wont have the reserves needed to cope and quite often can prove fatal. And as Yola has found out, they can double clutch and if they haven't built the weight back up in time then it can have awful consequences.

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Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire

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yola
Hatchling

United Kingdom
171 Posts

Posted - 07/10/2011 :  15:29:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes I did keep both babies. Unfortunatly 1 got out the nursery I have and I think 1 of my cats had it, beleave me I was not happy about this as they were male and female and im not sure why but had purpel dots in there eyes.
Then the dad escaped (he had the purple dots too and he was a very very pink snow), I was so upset about this, althou as he was alot bigger than his hatchlings I never found any blood or anything to give a hint that hes been killed by my cats (im sure thed be alot and it would show def on my laminate) so im hopeing he is still alive in the house somewhere and possibly under my stairs.
If i knew that the boy could mate at 2yrs old then I seriously would have seprated them. It really isn't nice to see a female wither and die because she put all her effort into these eggs and second clutching because of a mistake i made

With 27 beautiful corns I definitely have snakeitus :-)
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/10/2011 :  21:04:11  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
something that is also often overlooked is overweight or just generally heavy females which are much more prone to egg binding which in most cases is fatal.


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connorg96
Egg

United Kingdom
97 Posts

Posted - 23/10/2011 :  19:16:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i know the rule but i think it is more of a guideline, my female 2 year old normal, ACCIDENTALLY bred with my 2 year old male. she was however well over 500 grams and was like 4+ foot long but she succesfully laid a total of 29 eggs and im hoping to breed them in the future. so i guess i depends on the snake ??
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 23/10/2011 :  19:32:08  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
500g at 2 years old??? OMG what had you been feeding her?? my adult females are all under 500g!

i think you got lucky as, as eeji said above, obese and older females are also a higher risk, and yours definitely sounds obese if the age is right!

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