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tk72
Hatchling
United Kingdom
494 Posts |
 Posted - 08/10/2011 : 13:01:37
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Hi wondering if anyone can tell me when to go up to two pinkies. Paddy is four months old and had his first feed with us on thursday. The guy I got him from said he fed him every three days and he took all his feeds no problem. Just thinking when to move up a feed? He took the mouse with me fine and have been told every five days should be ok.
Thanks Terry. |
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Okeetee Mick
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2308 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2011 : 13:32:07
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All mine are around five months old and just started on two pinkies (last feed) without any problems at all. Some keepers say if the belly bulge is not too defined that is when to up the feed, but mine always seem to have a bulge but as their weight was staying stable I decided to increase to two. |
0.1.0 Okeetee (Sookie) 0.1.0 Powder (Luna) 0.1.0 Bloodred (Arlene) 0.1.0 Caramel Stripe (Tara)
0.1.0 Ghost (Crystal) 0.1.0 Caramel (Jessica) 0.1.0 Lavender Stripe (Portia) 1.0.0 Platinum (Godric)
0.1.0 Thayers King (Lettie Mae) 0.1.0 Albino Blairs King (Lorena) 0.1.0 Russian Ratsnakes (Pam)
0.1.0 Korean Ratsnake (Katerina) 1.0.0 Russian Ratsnake (Lafayette)
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tordyjo
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2036 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2011 : 14:13:52
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| 3 days even for a hatchie is a bit too often, it'll only be digesting and doing nothing else. My hatchie is fed every 4-5 days currently. If you think from the size of your snake they can take the length of two pinkies try. I found using 2 pinks before moving onto fuzzies gets them used to the extra size in the prey |
 Lilly Crystal Harry
1.2.0 corns, 1.1.0 cats tropical guppies who continually breed
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tk72
Hatchling
United Kingdom
494 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2011 : 14:18:27
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| thanks. will try him on one for the next feed then up it to two after that and see how he gets on. |
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johno
Egg
United Kingdom
75 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2011 : 15:52:24
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| yea he should be ok wit 2 pinkies unless hes a slow grower... mines about 5 month and just had his first fuzzie (a small fuzzy like) been on 2 picks since 3.5 - 4 month old |
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Mamma
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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NikNacz2112
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
29 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2011 : 14:04:47
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Hi, we have two young corns one at 4 months and the other at nearly 6 months now. They are both only on one pinky each every 7 days still, should i be increasing this now? and should it be more frequent?
They both seem healthy and active enough and will eventually both have 3-4ft vivs of their own so plenty of rom to move around and get some excersise. |
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ptmbradley
Yearling
United Kingdom
676 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2011 : 14:19:18
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I feed my 6 hatchies every 5 days. They've all been on 1 pinky but some of them are growing quite well so those ones will be onto 2 pinkies as of tomorrow.  |
Corns: 1.1 Anery, 1.1 Butter, 1.0 Carolina, 0.1 Hypo, 1.1 Snow, 1.0 Sunkissed
Boas: 0.1 Arabesque, 1.0 Brazilian Rainbow, 0.1 Crawl Cay, 1.1 Hogg Island X, 0.1 Hypo Hogg, 0.1 Kahl Albino (poss coral)
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tk72
Hatchling
United Kingdom
494 Posts |
Posted - 14/10/2011 : 22:48:27
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| Thanks all. Going to try him on two pinkies on sunday. Let you know how he gets on. |
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tk72
Hatchling
United Kingdom
494 Posts |
Posted - 17/10/2011 : 21:59:03
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hi and have tried him on two pinkies tonight, and he took them without a problem. gave him a 5 min break between them (hope this is the right thing to do). He is now 5 months old and weighs in at 16 grams and measures 17 inches. does anyone know if these sound right?
Thanks Terry.
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Okeetee Mick
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2308 Posts |
Posted - 17/10/2011 : 22:05:30
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| Sounds good, very similar to mine |
0.1.0 Okeetee (Sookie) 0.1.0 Powder (Luna) 0.1.0 Bloodred (Arlene) 0.1.0 Caramel Stripe (Tara)
0.1.0 Ghost (Crystal) 0.1.0 Caramel (Jessica) 0.1.0 Lavender Stripe (Portia) 1.0.0 Platinum (Godric)
0.1.0 Thayers King (Lettie Mae) 0.1.0 Albino Blairs King (Lorena) 0.1.0 Russian Ratsnakes (Pam)
0.1.0 Korean Ratsnake (Katerina) 1.0.0 Russian Ratsnake (Lafayette)
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Spreebok
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1135 Posts |
Posted - 17/10/2011 : 22:11:11
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@niknacz 6 months and on a single pinky? I know growth rates differ, but my first corn, who I got at 6 months had been on small mice for quite a while when I got him, but he is quite large for his age!
My smaller one of similar age was on fuzzies from when I got him at 4 months, and he's around 8 months now and is taking small mice.
I'd certainly up the food, for the 6 month old in particular, try him on a couple of pinkies a feed, and then up it to fuzzies if he's happy with the two pinkies after a while. And try offering the small one two pinkies, my tiny corn at nearly 4 months just took her first two pinkie feed happily!
The 7 days between feeds is fine really! All mine have been fed weekly until they reach a good size, then they are fed fortnightly. My small hatchie is fed every 5 days, but it's not set in stone. A fed days extra inbetween isn't going to cause any harm :)
But thats just my 2cents, I dunno if you have corns that are exceptionally small or whatnot, thats just how mine are :) |
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ptmbradley
Yearling
United Kingdom
676 Posts |
Posted - 17/10/2011 : 23:17:36
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Originally posted by Spreebok
My smaller one of similar age was on fuzzies from when I got him at 4 months, and he's around 8 months now and is taking small mice.
My yearling snow is still on fuzzies! She's only a third of the weight of my sunkissed, who is on small mice now. I was going to try her on a hopper, but tbh it's a fair bit bigger than a fuzzy, which is still showing as a lump in her belly.
She's healthy enough, so I don't worry about it, but I really would like to see her get some weight on. One of my new hatchlings will have overtaken her by Christmas at this rate! lol |
Corns: 1.1 Anery, 1.1 Butter, 1.0 Carolina, 0.1 Hypo, 1.1 Snow, 1.0 Sunkissed
Boas: 0.1 Arabesque, 1.0 Brazilian Rainbow, 0.1 Crawl Cay, 1.1 Hogg Island X, 0.1 Hypo Hogg, 0.1 Kahl Albino (poss coral)
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Spreebok
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1135 Posts |
Posted - 18/10/2011 : 12:34:11
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Originally posted by ptmbradley
My yearling snow is still on fuzzies! She's only a third of the weight of my sunkissed, who is on small mice now. I was going to try her on a hopper, but tbh it's a fair bit bigger than a fuzzy, which is still showing as a lump in her belly.
She's healthy enough, so I don't worry about it, but I really would like to see her get some weight on. One of my new hatchlings will have overtaken her by Christmas at this rate! lol
I guess I just grow em big lol  |
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Mnementh
Yearling
United Kingdom
537 Posts |
Posted - 18/10/2011 : 15:27:00
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All my hatchies have been fed one pinky every 7 days . They have just reached 3 months old and yesterday was the first time I offered up 2 pinky's , all 10 took them np's , so I'm happy with the 7 day / 2 pinks feeding regime from now on for a while .
But yeah , like its been said , 3 days is far too often , even hoggies who have a faster metabolism are only 4/5 days :) |
One last jump , that's all we have to take Holth .
Wearily the old queen gathered heself to spring ;
Moreta gratefully began her litany .
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tk72
Hatchling
United Kingdom
494 Posts |
Posted - 19/10/2011 : 11:20:16
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| so now he is on 2 should i move to every 7 days? thanks Terry. |
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Dancross0
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1315 Posts |
Posted - 19/10/2011 : 12:26:08
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I'm using this guide posted on thecornsnake.co.uk Facebook page.
http://www.facebook.com/groups/31273049277/doc/10150491478409278/
My 2 hatchies are 9g and 12g, and on 1 pinkie every 5 days. |
Aguna CB11 Anery - Typhon CB12 Amber - Plissken CB08 Carolina - Iara CB11 Caramel
Indra CB12 Lavender (?) - Evren CB12 Carolina (?) - Ophis CB11 Hypo Lavender - Sirae CB11 Ghost Motley
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Casta
Hatchling
United Kingdom
335 Posts |
Posted - 19/10/2011 : 21:34:58
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| mine is getting big quickly. was gonna think about incresing her feed in a few weeks but makes mor sense to go by weight than age. cheers. |
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tk72
Hatchling
United Kingdom
494 Posts |
Posted - 19/10/2011 : 22:58:49
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| Thanks for all the input guys. Not on Facebook Dan is the thread on here on it's own? As he didn't have a problem with two mice will keep him on that for a while. Thanks again Terry. |
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ptmbradley
Yearling
United Kingdom
676 Posts |
Posted - 19/10/2011 : 23:04:29
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Originally posted by tk72
Thanks for all the input guys. Not on Facebook Dan is the thread on here on it's own?
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Some of you will be aware of the Munson Feeding Guide, and many of you probably don't use it, as you prefer to go by eye as to whether your snake is ready for the next size up. If find the actual Munson Feeding Plan is a little too shove it down the throat and watch them grow fast, so I have toned it down for my own snakes, so I will provide both versions here in.
I feed all of mine at 7 day intervals (that being the Sunday of every week, though you obviously chose a day to suit yourself) and if they miss a feed, rather then waste the mice trying to get them to eat it over the next few days, they wait a week to get them good and hungry, so they will defintely take the meal. If you feel cruel doing that, whatever suits you! I just don't have the money to be throwing mice away left, right and center, lol!
So, if you would like the actual Munson Feeding Guide as made by the man himself, here is the link to a site that has it stickied, so shouldn't go walkies any time soon : http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-50106.html
And this below is my version of the Guide, which thus far has done my snakes extremely well. To follow it fully, you will need some electronic scales to weigh your snakes, and if you're as anal as me, your mice too. All of my mice have been separated into freezer bags dependent on weight, and it can be quite shocking that a mouse that looks like a X-Large Adult (25-30g), and was sold to you as one, actually has the weight of a Medium Adult (15-20g!). Always good to check, I think!
Snake Weight | Type Of Mouse | Weight Of Mouse
4-15g | 1 x Pinkie Mouse | 1-3g
16-23g | 2 x Pinkie Mice | 2 x 1-3g
24-40g | 1 x Fuzzie Mouse | 4-6g
41-70g | 1 x Large Fuzzie Mouse/2 x Fuzzie Mice | 10-12g/2 x 4-6g
71-130g | 1 x Small Adult Mouse | 12-14g
131-200g | 1 x Medium Adult Mouse | 15-20g
201-300g | 1 x Large Adult Mouse | 20-25g
301-500g | 1 x X-Large Adult Mouse | 25-30g
501-700g | 1 x Jumbo (Ex-Breeder) Adult Mouse/1 x Small Adult Rat | 30-35g
At the last stage, if you move on to rats, it might be wise, due to the higher fat content, to push the feeding times back another week, so adults of this size are being fed once every two weeks, rather then once a week. Some keepers will do this anyway with their adults, to stop them from gaining too much weight, or just to keep things varied for the snake. Whatever you plan to do, remember that a adult corn, on average, will be around the 700g mark in weight, unless they are exceptionally small, or exceptionally large. The best way to keep your eye on their weight is to keep track of their 'hips', the area around the vent. Once they start looking a little too much like love handles, it may be time to look at altering the diet of your snake - they probably aren't growing any more, so don't need such an intense feeding regime! |
Corns: 1.1 Anery, 1.1 Butter, 1.0 Carolina, 0.1 Hypo, 1.1 Snow, 1.0 Sunkissed
Boas: 0.1 Arabesque, 1.0 Brazilian Rainbow, 0.1 Crawl Cay, 1.1 Hogg Island X, 0.1 Hypo Hogg, 0.1 Kahl Albino (poss coral)
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