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twigleroo
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 02/10/2011 : 06:09:50
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| my corn twiglet has always been a bad shedder no matter what we try he never sheds in full he gets quater of a way down then hes skin seems to tight to for him to roll down and always results in me helping to shed the rest hes last shed was the same a month ago and then two weeks ago he spent five hours in hes water bowl submerged up to hes head which hes never done before when he came out he rubbed hes self on the front of the viv and round hes water bowl and hundreds of brown scales stuck to them i picked him up and my hands were littered with what looked like dead scales i rang the local pet shop who has a man who helps with snake issues and he advised i buff the remaining scales of with a sponge it took three days till he was clear his vent scales just came off in sheets alone until he had none of that clear film stuff showing after this he went very very very dull,dry and crispy rough feeling i bathed him everyday to try and rehydrate him but he stayed the same few days later i lifted himout and clear liquid spilled from hes mouth he hadnt done this before so i put him back to keep an eye on him and he went into blue mode the next day i thought he was gonna fix himself then 2 days ago he had lay on the hot side for two days i noticed hes eyes had cleared he was usually blue for over a week but this time was just 3 days i picked himout and a huge amount of thick clear liquid spilled from hes mouth it was horrific i took him to the vet an hour later thinking it was an RI but she said he had no other signs she checked for mites etc nothing she had no idea why hes scales fell off, why he has liquid building up, why hes so crusty and dry she said he seems to have got himself out of sorts and dehydrated but he baths everyday and drinks often i ggot a 5 day course of anti b's called baytril which i have to syringe into hes mouth once a day which he doesnt like being forced lol i have to soak him everyday for the 5 days and if he shows no sign of improvment he has to be seen by a specialist uk is in the middle of a heat wave so ive switched off hes heat mat as hes viv stays at 28c is this ok or should it be on constant ? sorry for the long post but im worried sick hope someone can help please x |
cali king ~ Gava
carolina corn ~ Twiglet
caramel corn ~ Bisquits
eastern river cooter turtle ~ Mr Salvatore
german shep ~ Max
collie cross ~ Scrappy
jack russ ~ Tyson |
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LarkaDawg
Hatchling
442 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2011 : 09:47:11
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Mine's a terrible shedder too, not as bad as yours. If he looks like he gonna shed soon, you could use the 'Shedding Aid'. Its like a spray and you spray it on him before he sheds (follow instructions). You can also buy some spaghnum moss, put it in a bucket of water then squeeze it out and fill one of his bigger hides with it.
I'm not sure about temps though, good luck, I hope he gets better :( |
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twigleroo
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2011 : 10:32:36
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| yeah hes trying to crack hes face as im sitting here typing but has no bagginess etc hes skin just looks so tight i bath him in the shed eaze stuff thats supposed to penetrate hes skin but it makes no difference hes got a humidity box filled with paper towels which seems to be helping but ill try the moss next month for sure see if it makes a difference im sorry you have the shedding problem too it seriously sucks my baby corn and my king shed perfectly touch wood but ths fella just isnt so lucky ty for your reply ill deffo try the moss :) |
cali king ~ Gava
carolina corn ~ Twiglet
caramel corn ~ Bisquits
eastern river cooter turtle ~ Mr Salvatore
german shep ~ Max
collie cross ~ Scrappy
jack russ ~ Tyson |
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Mamma
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4494 Posts |
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3556 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2011 : 16:00:27
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Are you using a thermostat on your heatmat when it's on?
I have no experience with shedding issues but that sounds awful. The thing that is throwing up the biggest alarm bells with me is the expulsion of liquid from his mouth. That does not sound normal at all and isn't something I have ever heard of. Is the vet your saw a specific reptile vet? |
4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire
www.support-dogs.org.uk |
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twigleroo
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2011 : 16:07:21
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| hes got a humidity box hes lived in for the past few days is that the same thing ? ive just checked on him as i was gonna give him his meds and hes daily bath and hes shed fully for the first time in 18 months it was perfect but much diffo to hes normal type it was dry and crispy and specks of the dead scales show up on hes tail which i must of missed so thats fab and the pattern of scruffy scales also shows so most of hes 'damage' has came off but he still seems really dry altho nice n shiney now lol any ideads what could have caused this amount of dryness and the mucus business as the vet wasnt really sure either x |
cali king ~ Gava
carolina corn ~ Twiglet
caramel corn ~ Bisquits
eastern river cooter turtle ~ Mr Salvatore
german shep ~ Max
collie cross ~ Scrappy
jack russ ~ Tyson |
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twigleroo
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2011 : 16:17:47
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| yeah its hot 82-73 cold i hope this is right =/ and the mucus was horrific ive just fed him and he wolfed it down he weighs 200g and the vet said hes got a strong constrict on him and seems healthy enough but she did state she wasnt an expert she said she had a vast knowledge but if she couldnt help she would refer him to a specialist on tuesday when he goes back for hes check up. a friend of mine thought he may have been to hot and this caused the mucus i dunno if this is true ? but it was on the hottest day of the heatwave and like a douche it never occured to turn his heat mat off for a while and it hit 30c which was pure neglect on my part but he seems back to normal this afternoon and its got me puzzled big time |
cali king ~ Gava
carolina corn ~ Twiglet
caramel corn ~ Bisquits
eastern river cooter turtle ~ Mr Salvatore
german shep ~ Max
collie cross ~ Scrappy
jack russ ~ Tyson |
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3556 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2011 : 17:07:48
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| If you have a thermostat then you shouldn't have any need to turn the heatmat off. That is what the thermostat does when it gets to the temperature you have set it to. |
4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire
www.support-dogs.org.uk |
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault
United Kingdom
8403 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2011 : 18:26:43
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| I really hope what ever is wrong, i do hope everything goes ok xx |
     
0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes |
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twigleroo
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2011 : 18:33:14
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| sorry read you wrong thought you said thermometer ive got a digital one of them on either side to be honest never really heard of a thermostat but just read up and bought a new one off ebay which should be here in a few days, n thanx scottishbluebird out of all my dogs, snakes n turtle hes the one who stands out most with hes own little personality and a just feel so sorry for him lol i hope he gets sorted too xx |
cali king ~ Gava
carolina corn ~ Twiglet
caramel corn ~ Bisquits
eastern river cooter turtle ~ Mr Salvatore
german shep ~ Max
collie cross ~ Scrappy
jack russ ~ Tyson |
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3556 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2011 : 22:21:50
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Thats great about the thermostat. Many shops dont tell you that they are important which is really wrong.
I'm really pleased that he gave you a good shed. I really don't know about the dry skin. It might still be worthwhile you getting him referred to a specialist or even looking around for a reptile vet yourself. It would save the consultation fee of seeing your usual vet as well as the specialist. |
4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire
www.support-dogs.org.uk |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2011 : 23:59:38
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| Is the problem more on the underside of the snake? My thinking been unstatted heat mat and a snake struggling to shed could possibly point to it been a burn. Also could be scale rot. Can you post some CLEAR pictures of your snake covering all angles and any areas that dont look right. Unfortunately when husbandry isn't right either through lack of research or bad advice the snake is the one to suffer, I've followed bad advice as well luckily these forums exist and it was quickly discovered and put right. Have a read of the caresheet, if you can get your setup matching that you can't go wrong and pop up some pictures (see photos sections for instructions on how to do it if you need them) and we'll se if we can't get this snake straightened out. |
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Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2011 : 15:13:00
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Originally posted by lotabob
Is the problem more on the underside of the snake? My thinking been unstatted heat mat and a snake struggling to shed could possibly point to it been a burn. Also could be scale rot. Can you post some CLEAR pictures of your snake covering all angles and any areas that dont look right. Unfortunately when husbandry isn't right either through lack of research or bad advice the snake is the one to suffer, I've followed bad advice as well luckily these forums exist and it was quickly discovered and put right. Have a read of the caresheet, if you can get your setup matching that you can't go wrong and pop up some pictures (see photos sections for instructions on how to do it if you need them) and we'll se if we can't get this snake straightened out.
Second this, pics are important. Doesnt really sound like the vet had a clue what she was doing. Mucus out of the mouth isnt really that common with RI's, bubbling yes, but not pouring out. Sounds like something else is wrong to me. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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twigleroo
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2011 : 16:25:54
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| yeah i can get some pics on in a few hours when i get home i gave him his antibiotics two hours ago by mouth and he stressed out quite a bit so i rang the vet and she said hes last dose i can put them in hes water over night if he drinks often which he does and it should be fine so that i did, hes due back in tomorrow for hes check up as its been five days since hes meds began and then depending on any improvements hell be referred to the top specialist in our area for replties so ill be able to tell you tomorrow hes under belly etc is fine theres no burns or wounds or any sign of trauma etc no sign of mites or any other bugs he was just so so dry and crusty hes substrate is white kitchen towels ive tried him on aspen and bark and he didnt budge out of hes hide for days with either he just didnt like them and when he did come out he slithered around the top of hes house and logs rather then the floor so hes been on the kitchen towel ive had him out today to soak him and he was his usual chirpy self hes scales seem to have a bit of shine to them again touch wood but when i checked hes shed last night it wasnt like normal snake shed it was dry and almost like stiff rice paper i cant really explain but there was no gaps in the bottom scales like normal it was just like one big sheet of scaley skin i cant really explain but ill deffo get some pics on later and thanx for your advice everyone =) |
cali king ~ Gava
carolina corn ~ Twiglet
caramel corn ~ Bisquits
eastern river cooter turtle ~ Mr Salvatore
german shep ~ Max
collie cross ~ Scrappy
jack russ ~ Tyson |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2011 : 19:07:10
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It really sounds like burn damage been shed off as its healing or scale rot but until pictures are available it will be difficult to pin down which one (or something totally different).
Why did the vet prescribe antibiotics when they said there was no sign of illness, did they explain as that doesn't make sense. The vet sounds like they had no clue about reptiles, You'd be better off going direct to the specialist they will have a much better idea of reptile treatment and save you the money and time of going through the throw baytril at it see if it helps approach. |
Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.
MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2011 : 23:35:12
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Originally posted by twigleroo
yeah i can get some pics on in a few hours when i get home i gave him his antibiotics two hours ago by mouth and he stressed out quite a bit so i rang the vet and she said hes last dose i can put them in hes water over night if he drinks often which he does and it should be fine so that i did, hes due back in tomorrow for hes check up as its been five days since hes meds began and then depending on any improvements hell be referred to the top specialist in our area for replties so ill be able to tell you tomorrow hes under belly etc is fine theres no burns or wounds or any sign of trauma etc no sign of mites or any other bugs he was just so so dry and crusty hes substrate is white kitchen towels ive tried him on aspen and bark and he didnt budge out of hes hide for days with either he just didnt like them and when he did come out he slithered around the top of hes house and logs rather then the floor so hes been on the kitchen towel ive had him out today to soak him and he was his usual chirpy self hes scales seem to have a bit of shine to them again touch wood but when i checked hes shed last night it wasnt like normal snake shed it was dry and almost like stiff rice paper i cant really explain but there was no gaps in the bottom scales like normal it was just like one big sheet of scaley skin i cant really explain but ill deffo get some pics on later and thanx for your advice everyone =)
No offence, but your lack of punctuation makes my eyes bleed, its like a wall of words!!
It does sound like hes healing from something, the mucous issue is far more worrying to me than his dry skin. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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twigleroo
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2011 : 01:08:35
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| i asked a snake forum for advice on a sick snake to take the time to comment on the way i type seems to be a bit of a waste of time and no need for it really as everyone else had the intelligence to understand what i was saying regardless of punctuation or lack of. thankyou to the members who have offered advice but im much more interested in helping my snake rather than being insulted im well aware the mucus is a worrying issue hence why the vet gave him antibiotics she thought it could be an infection of some sort on hes lung and he needed help to fight what ever was wrong with him hence why i asked here as most people seemed to know a lot about health issues he is back to the vet tommorow so i should know why as for my punctuation im often on an ipod touch or blackberry and if you have used these items you know it would take an age to put punctuation in and check everything before submit and that amount of time i seriously dont have thanx for the 'advice' tho its all appreciated. |
cali king ~ Gava
carolina corn ~ Twiglet
caramel corn ~ Bisquits
eastern river cooter turtle ~ Mr Salvatore
german shep ~ Max
collie cross ~ Scrappy
jack russ ~ Tyson |
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault
United Kingdom
8403 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2011 : 02:05:20
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| I did have to lol at the punctuation comment then he spelt mucus wrong! I am really glad things are looking better, but have you thought about finding a vet with more experience of snakes? my vet is fantastic, but i would not take Kellogs there as even the guy who looks at snakes admitted he has not much experience with them. |
0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2011 : 09:14:20
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Originally posted by scottishbluebird
I did have to lol at the punctuation comment then he spelt mucus wrong! I am really glad things are looking better, but have you thought about finding a vet with more experience of snakes? my vet is fantastic, but i would not take Kellogs there as even the guy who looks at snakes admitted he has not much experience with them.
I didnt mention anything about spelling!
Punctuation takes relatively few seconds to sort out, stop being lazy, everyone else manages it.
You need to see a vet who knows about reps, your vet apparently doesnt. That amount of mucus in the throat and lungs is only an indicator of a fairly serious infection. As for the skin, PICS, no one can help you without pictures, it could be any number of things.
Punctuation takes relatively few seconds to sort out, stop being lazy, everyone else manages it. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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twigleroo
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2011 : 09:58:07
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jesus what is your problem with my typing i only wanted a bit of advice regarding my snake not insults or abuse off some randomer on a forum,
good morning scottishbluebird yeah i agree she did state she wasnt an expert but i was to worried to wait for the three day waiting period for the specialist but twiglets back to the vet in a couple of hours and she decides then if he needs to see the reptile specialist but to be honest since he shed hes perked up loads and its been nearly a week now since any mucus and he does generally seem to be back to normal which makes me wonder was is the heat that made him fill with mucus as with the heat wave etc it was HOT hes thermostat should be here anyday so ill let you know how he gets on at the vet and thanx for your kind words :) x |
cali king ~ Gava
carolina corn ~ Twiglet
caramel corn ~ Bisquits
eastern river cooter turtle ~ Mr Salvatore
german shep ~ Max
collie cross ~ Scrappy
jack russ ~ Tyson |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2011 : 11:24:37
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Originally posted by twigleroo
jesus what is your problem with my typing i only wanted a bit of advice regarding my snake not insults or abuse off some randomer on a forum,
good morning scottishbluebird yeah i agree she did state she wasnt an expert but i was to worried to wait for the three day waiting period for the specialist but twiglets back to the vet in a couple of hours and she decides then if he needs to see the reptile specialist but to be honest since he shed hes perked up loads and its been nearly a week now since any mucus and he does generally seem to be back to normal which makes me wonder was is the heat that made him fill with mucus as with the heat wave etc it was HOT hes thermostat should be here anyday so ill let you know how he gets on at the vet and thanx for your kind words :) x
the problem is you dont punctuate, which makes it very difficult to read, which makes it harder to help with the problem.
Its not the vet who decides to see a specialist, its you, you need to take the snake to a specialist, you are just wasting time and money going to see a normal vet.
If you dont put pics up, its impossible to to help, it could be any number of things, but i cant help you if you dont put up pics. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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