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tk72
Hatchling

United Kingdom
494 Posts

Posted - 24/08/2011 :  15:05:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all and thanks again.Been to wales for a little holiday and while we where there we went to a place called Pili Palas it is a small animal park just inside anglesea. They have snakes for you to hold and the kids where both great with them. Got talking to A guy called Edd who works there an he said they sell snakes with a full set up which includes the following.

a viv exotic vivarium 915mm x 470 x 525
a 29" x 11" heat mat
a mini stat 100
aspen bedding
snake hide
2 plants
water dish
book on corn snakes
UVB 2% bulb
a starter unit for the bulb
a smaller container to put inside the vivarium to keep hatchling in
oh and the most important is a carolina corn snake. (hatchling)
plus postage for £230.00

was just wondering if anyone knows whether this sounds like a good deal. and got a good feel about the place as all animals where in good condition and all tanks and vivariums where spotless. both kids where great holding the snakes and loved touching them so at least i know they would be ok with one at home now.

if you are ever in Wales i would reccomend this as a place to visit as there are loads of animals to hold. (snakes, tarantulas, beardies,stick insects etc) and there is an amazing butterfly house where they all fly around you.

it also has a good play area too.
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Simmy_82
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1272 Posts

Posted - 24/08/2011 :  15:13:01  Show Profile  Click to see Simmy_82's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
To me that looks a bit expensive. And if you have a heat mat a bulb set up is not needed IMO. You'd need an extra hide. Best thing to do is go to http://www.surreypetsupplies.co.uk/ or http://www.renzaexotics.co.uk/ (Renza isnt fully operational yet i dont think). Add each item in the above list to the basket and see what it works out at. You can normall get your Snake hatchling at a local store. I paid £29.99 for mine.

here is a list of what i got for my hatchling (this will last 6-8 months before you need to buy a bigger heat mat and faun/viv) I made my own hides tho. Just an idea of costs thats all.

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Originally posted by Simmy_82

Thanks for that Andy. Revised all items (see below) and its come to £48 ish excluding the hides, and with a Larger Faunarium.

1x Exo Terra Flat Faunarium - (Large)
1x Habistat Heat Mat 7W
1x Habistat Mat Stat Thermostat
1x Zoo Med Digital Thermometer (same as i saw on ebay 50p difference)
1x Liquid Crystal Thermometer (for the cooler end)
1x Exo Terra Water Dish - Medium
1x Exo Terra Silk Plant Abutilon Small

Deffo looking to get a younger snake. Local shop has a selection of younger snakes, No older than a year as they are still in fairly small RUBs. So wil acquire the hides when i buy the snake and ask the store what would be best etc. Thanks everyone, i can officially get excited about the weekend now!



EDIT: I am also using kitchen roll as a substrate so that i can get used to what their poo looks like (ie whats normal etc).


0.1.0 - Cat - Tallulah
0.0.1 - Carolina Corn Snake - Lilith

Edited by - Simmy_82 on 24/08/2011 15:17:28
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Kittypuss85
Hatchling

United Kingdom
128 Posts

Posted - 24/08/2011 :  15:45:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd say that was expensive too. The shop I stock up at does a complete set up including Carolina corn snake for £100. That is a plastic faun, but even if you wanted to wooden viv instead of the faun it'd only be About £125.
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tk72
Hatchling

United Kingdom
494 Posts

Posted - 24/08/2011 :  16:24:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for that guys. And Simmy just been onto both of those sites and knocked off £100 quid just by having a quick look. Ta very much.
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Simmy_82
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1272 Posts

Posted - 24/08/2011 :  16:33:25  Show Profile  Click to see Simmy_82's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
No probs. A heat lamp isnt really needed if you going to have a heat mat. If you want lighting for the Faun/Viv. You can use these http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/90192071 - They are adjustable lenght wise (i currently use 1 strip with two spare for when i upgrade). They also dont need a guard as they dont emit a lot of heat so are safe for the snake etc.

EDIT: Below is an example of the lighting (this is my set up c/w homemade hides - £1 kids bowls from asda pack of 5 or 6)



0.1.0 - Cat - Tallulah
0.0.1 - Carolina Corn Snake - Lilith

Edited by - Simmy_82 on 24/08/2011 16:35:58
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tk72
Hatchling

United Kingdom
494 Posts

Posted - 24/08/2011 :  17:46:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
we have those bowls in our cupboard. was going to buy a three foot tank straight off so i dont have to buy another viv. would you reccomend this? if the snake needs a smaller space could put the faunarium inside the bigger tank.
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Simmy_82
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1272 Posts

Posted - 24/08/2011 :  18:13:36  Show Profile  Click to see Simmy_82's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Buying a bug viv straight away is much too big for your hatchie. I've got the large faun. And it probs won't out grow that for 6-8months. So you could save up on that time for the larger viv.

All I did with the bowls was hacksaw some access, filed it down with a nail file then smoothed the edges with a lighter.


0.1.0 - Cat - Tallulah
0.0.1 - Carolina Corn Snake - Lilith
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tk72
Hatchling

United Kingdom
494 Posts

Posted - 24/08/2011 :  20:29:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for the advice. will keep it in mind. and been looking at those sites a bit more and they are by far the cheapest. thanks. do you just slide the heat mat under half of your faun then?
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Simmy_82
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1272 Posts

Posted - 24/08/2011 :  20:57:58  Show Profile  Click to see Simmy_82's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yeah my faun is on top of the heat mat. If you look in the general keeping subforum there is a hacthling setup thread that may help?


0.1.0 - Cat - Tallulah
0.0.1 - Carolina Corn Snake - Lilith
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tk72
Hatchling

United Kingdom
494 Posts

Posted - 26/08/2011 :  12:52:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
GOING TO TAKE THE KIDS YP TO WARRINGTON EXOTICS NEXT WEEK FOR THEM TO HAVE A LOOK AND A HOLD OF A FEW SNAKES. WILL TRY DIFFERENT AGES TO SEE WHAT IS BEST AND WHAT THEY ARE COMFORTABLE WITH. LIKE A FEW OF YOU SAID MY BOY MIGHT BE A BIT SMALL SO WILL POSSIBLY GO IN A FEW TIMES TO KEEP THE INTEREST UP AND GET HIM USED TO HANDLING THEM. (AS LONG AS THE SHOP IS OK WITH THAT OF COURSE) THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP AND ADVICE GUYS.
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tomp33
Egg

United Kingdom
56 Posts

Posted - 29/08/2011 :  14:36:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Congrats on your decision :)
But yeah, a 3 year old and a hatchling really shouldn't mix -.-
Lol, enjoy

1 Corn Snake- Snape
:)
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