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chrisc
Hatchling

United Kingdom
357 Posts

Posted - 20/07/2011 :  17:37:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hey all got a question about Quarantine. im being given a rat snake at the weekend. and as i can only really put the vivs in my bedroom will it be far enough if the vivs are in the opposite corners of the room for Quarantine purpose's?

1.0.0 baird's rat snake, jeff 1.0.0 royal, derek 1.0.0 royal, frank 0.1.0 dog jenny 1.0.0 bull snake, ivan 0.1.0 bull snake, mavis 0.1.0 chilean rose, Bernadette 1.0.0 hognose, chuck 1.0.0 BCI, william

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Katie.Dublin
Sub Adult

Ireland
1560 Posts

Posted - 20/07/2011 :  18:36:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Should be ok.. Correct me if im wrong but so long as there's pleanty of hand sanitiser being used between handling etc you shouldnt have a prob.


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chrisc
Hatchling

United Kingdom
357 Posts

Posted - 20/07/2011 :  18:39:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
was planning on getting a couple of bottles of that an put one on each viv so its right infront of me

1.0.0 baird's rat snake, jeff 1.0.0 royal, derek 1.0.0 royal, frank 0.1.0 dog jenny 1.0.0 bull snake, ivan 0.1.0 bull snake, mavis 0.1.0 chilean rose, Bernadette 1.0.0 hognose, chuck 1.0.0 BCI, william

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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
5319 Posts

Posted - 20/07/2011 :  18:40:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ideally it should be in different rooms to stop airborne nasties passing between snakes, its not just about good hygiene between animals. If you dont have the space best making do with what you can and keeping them as far as possible from each other


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chrisc
Hatchling

United Kingdom
357 Posts

Posted - 20/07/2011 :  18:43:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
think my room is about 10ft x 15ft ish maybe more and they will be in separate corners

1.0.0 baird's rat snake, jeff 1.0.0 royal, derek 1.0.0 royal, frank 0.1.0 dog jenny 1.0.0 bull snake, ivan 0.1.0 bull snake, mavis 0.1.0 chilean rose, Bernadette 1.0.0 hognose, chuck 1.0.0 BCI, william

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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 20/07/2011 :  18:46:28  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
if that's as far as your quarantine procedures can go then that's all you can do
though it certainly won't be effective against mites, airborn bacteria or viruses and the like

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Katie.Dublin
Sub Adult

Ireland
1560 Posts

Posted - 20/07/2011 :  19:04:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gingerpony

if that's as far as your quarantine procedures can go then that's all you can do
though it certainly won't be effective against mites, airborn bacteria or viruses and the like



Mites? How so? 2 closed vivs 15ft apart?!


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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
5319 Posts

Posted - 20/07/2011 :  19:14:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Katie.Dublin

quote:
Originally posted by gingerpony

if that's as far as your quarantine procedures can go then that's all you can do
though it certainly won't be effective against mites, airborn bacteria or viruses and the like



Mites? How so? 2 closed vivs 15ft apart?!



they are closed vivs not totally sealed so the mites can and do get in. Mites can travel massive distances so 15 ft is pretty much nothing.


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chrisc
Hatchling

United Kingdom
357 Posts

Posted - 20/07/2011 :  19:24:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
im being given just the snake so will have a sterelized viv or rub waiting for it and will be picking in up in a steralized tub with lid. will check for signs of mites when i collect it, if i see any signs would be best to give it a bath before putting it in the viv?

1.0.0 baird's rat snake, jeff 1.0.0 royal, derek 1.0.0 royal, frank 0.1.0 dog jenny 1.0.0 bull snake, ivan 0.1.0 bull snake, mavis 0.1.0 chilean rose, Bernadette 1.0.0 hognose, chuck 1.0.0 BCI, william

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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
5319 Posts

Posted - 20/07/2011 :  19:53:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
definately, there is a sticky about oil baths in the health section just incase


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chrisc
Hatchling

United Kingdom
357 Posts

Posted - 20/07/2011 :  20:09:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just had a read through it and a post on the royal forum. not feeling the frontline idea personally but the fairy liquid bath sounds good and hypoaspis mites seems like a really good idea if i do encounter a mite problem

1.0.0 baird's rat snake, jeff 1.0.0 royal, derek 1.0.0 royal, frank 0.1.0 dog jenny 1.0.0 bull snake, ivan 0.1.0 bull snake, mavis 0.1.0 chilean rose, Bernadette 1.0.0 hognose, chuck 1.0.0 BCI, william

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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 20/07/2011 :  20:16:43  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i really do like the idea of hypoaspis mites, and i'd really love to think that that was the way to go if we ever got an infestation...............but Ardap, all hail the Ardap god!

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chrisc
Hatchling

United Kingdom
357 Posts

Posted - 20/07/2011 :  20:21:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yea seems like a very good natural way to get rid of mites.
whats ardap?

1.0.0 baird's rat snake, jeff 1.0.0 royal, derek 1.0.0 royal, frank 0.1.0 dog jenny 1.0.0 bull snake, ivan 0.1.0 bull snake, mavis 0.1.0 chilean rose, Bernadette 1.0.0 hognose, chuck 1.0.0 BCI, william

my youtube. http://www.youtube.com/user/pegrocks
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ptmbradley
Yearling

United Kingdom
676 Posts

Posted - 20/07/2011 :  21:02:18  Show Profile  Visit ptmbradley's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My recent boas came with a suspected mite problem so they were kept at the other end of the house and given daily fairy liquid baths for about 10 days. To be fair I don't think the problem was particularly bad to start with, but the baths solved it completely. They are still living under quarantine conditions just because I haven't yet got round to pimping their homes, but I haven't seen any sign of mites for ages. A former member and friend of mine did the fairy liquid thing for her snakes and it worked for her too.

Corns: 1.1 Anery, 1.1 Butter, 1.0 Carolina, 0.1 Hypo, 1.1 Snow, 1.0 Sunkissed
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5292 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2012 :  20:41:35  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
if I cant quarantine in different rooms will this stop me from getting more snakeys?

1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx

Edited by - ScalySituation on 13/06/2012 20:41:54
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ashby_steve
Hatchling

United Kingdom
258 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2012 :  20:52:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So basically.... everyone with a viv stack system is screwed

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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2012 :  20:55:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ashby_steve

So basically.... everyone with a viv stack system is screwed



Nope, i have a stack, my new snake is in a tub in a different room, its a temporary thing but will soon be over and I'll have a mat and stat spare for new animals.

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2012 :  21:13:09  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
all you need for quarantine is a secure plastic tub, paper substrate, card box hides, water bowl, heat mat, thermometer and stat. All basic stuff that can be picked up cheaply, put anywhere in the house, and used over and over again for any more new additions :)


Forum - Guide to Cornsnake Morphs - Punnett Square Calculator - Breeder Directory
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5292 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2012 :  21:17:35  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
so just like a normal exo terra faun in the same room is k?

1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  19:23:02  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
a different room is better, as mites can walk huge distances.

A faun is fine, keep the inside as basic as possible (while still catering to the snakes needs of course) so if theres anything wrong its easier to spot (mites, the trots, blood in the poo, etc etc etc)


Forum - Guide to Cornsnake Morphs - Punnett Square Calculator - Breeder Directory

Edited by - eeji on 14/06/2012 19:25:04
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5292 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  19:25:10  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
okies, i'll see if i can put sonny in the living room

1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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