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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3556 Posts |
 Posted - 05/07/2011 : 15:33:17
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Iv put in an order of mice with A&N but they have emailed me to say they are out of stock of xbreeder mice and can substitute them with medium weaner rats.
I know that rats are fattier than mice so should I get the rats and just have a bigger feeding interval or source some xbreeders from somewhere else |
4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire
www.support-dogs.org.uk |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2011 : 17:11:31
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Just extend the gap between feedings. My Spot gets the odd rat here and there and his feeding response to them is incredible.
I'm sure that if they are recommending them they will be a good match weight for weight just watch out as I've seen rats called allsorts, very confusing. |
Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.
MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2011 : 17:39:45
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i'd go with the rats as long as their 'medium weaners' are of a comparable size.......alternatively, if they have large mice in stock, i'd just feed larges and maybe 2 per feed on the odd week  |
cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos
Location:Leeds/York/Selby area |
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3556 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2011 : 18:09:50
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Thanks.
They did tell me that the medium weaners were the same weight as the xbreeders. I'l give them a go. Maybe then Swayze wont decide my fingers are his 2nd course. |
4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire
www.support-dogs.org.uk |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2011 : 22:25:48
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remind me not to get medium weaners from A&N then lol i'd expect them to be 60-75g ish!!  |
cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos
Location:Leeds/York/Selby area |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2011 : 00:21:47
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Just to demonstrate the confusion that can arise when switching from rat to mouse or mouse to rat I have three snakes and a freezer full of differently sized mice and rats. I just ran to the freezer scooped out a selection of sizes, weighed them and laid them out for a photo shoot. I also have labelled them according to what I ask for at my shop.
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Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.
MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky |
Edited by - lotabob on 06/07/2011 00:23:51 |
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mkmattyk
banned
United Kingdom
837 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2011 : 09:18:59
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| gingerpony whats A&N |
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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5599 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2011 : 10:06:03
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| Its an online frozen food suppliers (a bit like Iceland for reps!) |
      
3.1.0 Corn snakes, 1.0.0 T-Albino Cape House Snake, 0.1.0 Western Hognose,
1.0.0 MBK, 0.1.0 Childrens Python, 1.0.0 Nicaraguan Dwarf Boas
0.0.1 Occelated Skink, 1.0.0 Leopard Gecko, 1.0.3 Tarantulas, 0.0.2 Damon diadema
1.0.0 C0ckatiel,
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2011 : 11:07:41
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quote:
Originally posted by Mort13
Its an online frozen food suppliers (a bit like Iceland for reps!)
PMSL
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Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.
MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky |
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3556 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2011 : 16:20:03
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| My large mice are usually between 20 and 25g. xlarge or xbreeders I have had from 30 right up to over 50g. I hope the weaners aren't that big Ali otherwise they will be too big even for swayze. They actually said they were the same size. They didn't say the same weight like I thought but it shouldn't make that much difference. Guess I will see what they are like when they arrive |
4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire
www.support-dogs.org.uk |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2011 : 17:02:34
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| I'm sure it should be fine, they are the ones who know their own sizes better than most, they wouldn't send something too big I'm sure. Good luck on the feeding though if Spot's reaction to a rat is anything to go by it won't be a n issue, and hold your nose, big rats STINK! |
Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.
MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2011 : 21:28:50
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rats are fine, be sure to check the size though, weaners arent small!!! saying that, the alst lot i ordered were smaller than large mice, which was annoying, but not the end of the world.
I wont get in to the arguement about body fat differences between mice and rats again, but suffice to say, its not quite what you think, rats arent that bad.
Bob, your hand writing on the tissue is very neat, you should be proud!!! (insert winking smiley here that i cant find!) |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Katie.Dublin
Sub Adult
Ireland
1560 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2011 : 23:29:46
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| Rat sizes are decieving...! My boa can eat rabbits and guiny pigs, but cant eat the Jumbo rats from my local shop cause they're like the size of labradors!! |
     
0.1 normal (Miami) - Hugo
0.1 hypo Motley - Spunky
0.1 MBK - Tequila. RIP
Horses, bearded dragons, a red tailed boa constrictor, a tortoise, a cat and a dog |
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simonw
Hatchling
United Kingdom
128 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2011 : 19:33:32
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| It's not that rats have any more fat on them than mice in proportion to their size, it's just that they're bigger. And they taste better. :P |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2011 : 15:34:57
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Originally posted by simonw
And they taste better. :P
I'm not even going to ask how you know this  |
Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.
MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky |
Edited by - lotabob on 09/07/2011 15:35:19 |
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tarotpodge
Hatchling
433 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2011 : 20:25:31
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quote:
Originally posted by lotabob
quote:
Originally posted by simonw
And they taste better. :P
I'm not even going to ask how you know this
Rat stew...rat on toast....lol |
2.0.3 Corns, Creamsicle(Phoenix), Ghost motley(Savanna), 2x carolina(Indiana+Severus), Amel stripe (Frazzle).
0.3.0 Dogs, Shar pei cross, Staff and Dalmation 0.3.0 Cats 2.0.0 Chinchillas 7.11.23 Tropical fish 1.0.0 Iguana |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 09/07/2011 : 20:35:59
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| Ratatouille. |
Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.
MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky |
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 13/07/2011 : 20:50:42
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quote:
Originally posted by kdlang
My large mice are usually between 20 and 25g. xlarge or xbreeders I have had from 30 right up to over 50g. I hope the weaners aren't that big Ali otherwise they will be too big even for swayze. They actually said they were the same size. They didn't say the same weight like I thought but it shouldn't make that much difference. Guess I will see what they are like when they arrive
I have medium rat weaners from A & N and they weigh from about 35g to 43g. |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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rats instead of mice advise
