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vivtastic
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Posted - 03/05/2011 :  19:27:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Which thermostat do you use and why, lets hear about both the good and bad experiences members have had.

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Vivtastic

a33272
our battery charger

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/05/2011 :  19:38:16  Show Profile  Visit a33272's Homepage  Send a33272 an AOL message  Click to see a33272's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
habistat both vivs running them, 2 spares tucked away just incase. brilliant after service care. had one stop working, posted off returned back within 48 hours



0.1.0 creamsicle corn-Marmalade
1.0.0 jungle carpet python-Bumble
1.0.0 corn Casper

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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2011 :  19:38:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Never used microclimate but i have 3 habistats. One mat stat and and two temperature thermostats. Never had any problems with any of them but i would say that the temperature stats are almost spot on for temps while the mat stat is a little out it reads higher than what the dial on the stat says. I also have a GEKO thermostat (been told they are the same as the lucky reptile) and I have to say it is excellent. Temperature is spot on and although it is an on/off stat you get no temperature flutuation with it unlike the other on/off stats. It also has the benefit of the large digital read out and the probe is pretty small so don't need such a large hole to put the probe through.

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family
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Invalid User
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/05/2011 :  19:49:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have a few microclimate mini 100 mat stats.

They do the job great and I run multiple mats off mine :D
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2011 :  20:13:24  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Never used Microclimate, party as the knob turning thing looked like I needed a screwdriver to turn on the pictures D: So I have Habistat pulses.



A very special super, duper thanks for K :3
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vivtastic
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Posted - 03/05/2011 :  20:24:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sta~ple

Never used Microclimate, party as the knob turning thing looked like I needed a screwdriver to turn on the pictures D: So I have Habistat pulses.



They market this as a safety feature and say it prevents accidental knocking of the knob and alteration of the temperature, it makes sense i suppose when you think about it but it is not as handy to change.

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Vivtastic
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2011 :  20:26:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But ideal for families with young children, they do like to fiddle with knobs!

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family
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Ailsa
Banned

United Kingdom
804 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2011 :  20:45:08  Show Profile  Click to see Ailsa's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I bought a microclimate mini 100 mat stat as while reading threads I'd seen some people had issues with Habistat ones, after a little adjusting with a screwdriver lol my temp ranges from 28.5 - 29.5*C.


Dakota ~ Bloodred Corn ~ Amber & Chloe ~ Cats
Mind is changing on snakes I want now lol so am researching these to find out what would be best - Milk Snakes and Dwarf Boa possibly - Crawl Cay, Sonoran, Tarahumara or Vera Cruz and poss a Hoggie, African House and Rat snake. Also Trinket Snakes.
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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
5319 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2011 :  20:48:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I use both micro and habistat dont have any issues with either


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mikeyd_26
Yearling

United Kingdom
716 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2011 :  20:51:37  Show Profile  Click to see mikeyd_26's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i use both and habistat way better. For a start they look a better made stat and the temps dont drop as much before it turns back on



0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
millions of beardies!
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Posted - 03/05/2011 :  20:55:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mikeyd_24

i use both and habistat way better. For a start they look a better made stat and the temps dont drop as much before it turns back on



But are they both mat stats or is one a pulse stat?

A pulse stat will always keep temps more steady.
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2011 :  21:00:18  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
we use both in a variety of guises....on/offs, pulses and dimmers.
performance-wise the different brands of the same type of stat are all pretty much the same, i just don't like on/off stats, except my Aqua-line which was fab for maintaining temps
and as for twin-stats....what a waste of time!!

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

Location:Leeds/York/Selby area
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ptmbradley
Yearling

United Kingdom
676 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2011 :  21:03:29  Show Profile  Visit ptmbradley's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've got one of each running right now and Habistat wins by a mile for me. I got another one for my gf and there's a 3rd one hopefully tomorrow courtesy of the great Surrey Pet Supplies. £19 from there. £35 from my local stockist!!!

Anyway, like I said for me it'll be stats all the way from now on. I've just found them to be SO much more reliable at keeping a steady temp. It fluctuates between 27-30 across 24 hours, which is still more than I'd like, but my microclimate flips constantly up and down from 26 to 32 and shows a different reading every minute of the day! I've had it running rubs and my partitioned viv and used different thermometers, but it's always the same. I checked it when I started this reply and it said 28.6. I just been to check it again 2 minutes later and it's showing 32.1! When I've finished spending so much money on everything else I'll be replacing it with a Habistat and keep it for emergencies only.

Glad the rest of you out there don't seem to be having the same bother!

Pete

Corns: 1.1 Anery, 1.1 Butter, 1.0 Carolina, 0.1 Hypo, 1.1 Snow, 1.0 Sunkissed
Boas: 0.1 Arabesque, 1.0 Brazilian Rainbow, 0.1 Crawl Cay, 1.1 Hogg Island X, 0.1 Hypo Hogg, 0.1 Kahl Albino (poss coral)

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ptmbradley
Yearling

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Posted - 03/05/2011 :  21:04:15  Show Profile  Visit ptmbradley's Homepage  Reply with Quote
... and another check 2 more minutes later and my microclimate is 29.4... lol

Corns: 1.1 Anery, 1.1 Butter, 1.0 Carolina, 0.1 Hypo, 1.1 Snow, 1.0 Sunkissed
Boas: 0.1 Arabesque, 1.0 Brazilian Rainbow, 0.1 Crawl Cay, 1.1 Hogg Island X, 0.1 Hypo Hogg, 0.1 Kahl Albino (poss coral)

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vivtastic
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Posted - 03/05/2011 :  21:10:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mikeyd_24

i use both and habistat way better. For a start they look a better made stat and the temps dont drop as much before it turns back on



I know what you mean the Microclimate could be equally if not better made than tha Habistat but the overall styling looks cheap. They both have a 5 year guarantee i know that. Is there anyone with specialised knowledge on this site who has looked at the internals of both thermostats and can shed any light on the build quality of both stats.

Kindest regards

Vivtastic
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Invalid User
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Posted - 03/05/2011 :  21:11:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ptmbradley

... and another check 2 more minutes later and my microclimate is 29.4... lol



Sounds like it just needs turning down a few degrees
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2011 :  21:17:01  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vivtastic

quote:
Originally posted by mikeyd_24

i use both and habistat way better. For a start they look a better made stat and the temps dont drop as much before it turns back on



I know what you mean the Microclimate could be equally if not better made than tha Habistat but the overall styling looks cheap. They both have a 5 year guarantee i know that. Is there anyone with specialised knowledge on this site who has looked at the internals of both thermostats and can shed any light on the build quality of both stats.

Kindest regards

Vivtastic



Rumour has it they were once the same company but spilt. How true it is I do not know.



A very special super, duper thanks for K :3
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ptmbradley
Yearling

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676 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2011 :  21:17:08  Show Profile  Visit ptmbradley's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Louise32



Sounds like it just needs turning down a few degrees



... well when I see readings of 32 I do feel like turning it down. But then when I check 5 minutes later and it says 26 I know I can't really, otherwise it'll probably drop even lower!!

Flicking between those extremes gives an AVERAGE 29 I suppose, so hopefully it's not causing them problems. But I will definitely swap it out for a Habistat before too much longer.

Corns: 1.1 Anery, 1.1 Butter, 1.0 Carolina, 0.1 Hypo, 1.1 Snow, 1.0 Sunkissed
Boas: 0.1 Arabesque, 1.0 Brazilian Rainbow, 0.1 Crawl Cay, 1.1 Hogg Island X, 0.1 Hypo Hogg, 0.1 Kahl Albino (poss coral)

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eeji
The Morph Master

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Posted - 03/05/2011 :  21:18:35  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
here we go again....!

All mine are microclimate pulse, I find them more reliable than habistat. And its no big deal to use a little screwdriver to adjust it, much better than being knocked accidentally or turned by curious little fingers.


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gingerpony
Queen Bee

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Posted - 03/05/2011 :  21:19:25  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i have a microclimate pulse running my day gecko incubator and it maintains 27*C +/-0.1*C
you've got to admit that's pretty damn accurate!

on/off stats tend to vary a lot by design, and add a snake moving around into the mix too....all it takes is a cold snake moving to the warm end, sitting on either the therm probe, stat probe or both and it sends the equipment incorrect signals, with the therm reading lower than it is, the stat thinking the temp is lower than it is so putting the mat on flat out which isn't registering accurately cos the snake's sat on the damn probes.....lmfao you can tie yourself up in knots and lose a lot of sleep over nothing!

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

Location:Leeds/York/Selby area
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vivtastic
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Posted - 04/05/2011 :  07:27:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ailsa

I bought a microclimate mini 100 mat stat as while reading threads I'd seen some people had issues with Habistat ones, after a little adjusting with a screwdriver lol my temp ranges from 28.5 - 29.5*C.



That really is good performance, the Habistat ones i have used (not pulse ones) typically fluctuate by about 3ish degrees between the off and on cycles.

Regards

Vivtastic
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