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Frazer
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
5 Posts

Posted - 30/04/2011 :  09:47:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi I'm looking after my friend's snake for a year. The snake is 14 years old, the problem is he hasn't eaten since I've had him which is about 5 weeks. He is very active in his viv and when I get him out. I have offered food regularly what shall I do.

Spreebok
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1135 Posts

Posted - 30/04/2011 :  12:33:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds like mating season, but I'll let the more experience people give a better diagnosis ;)
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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן

United Kingdom
8173 Posts

Posted - 30/04/2011 :  13:52:30  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
If you could have a looky at this thread http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13662 and answer the questions for us, it would be handy.
Cheers
-=K

-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon

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Frazer
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
5 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2011 :  17:48:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The snake is about 3 and 1/2 foot long in a glass tank that's 4ft long by 18 inchs high. the temperature is regulated by two heat pads at between 24 - 28 degrees. He is very active in the viv and when I get him out. He was due to feed the week I got him, that was 5 weeks and 4 days ago. I have regularly put mice in but apart from taking some interest in them he hasn't eaten them.
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2011 :  18:03:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your cold end at this time of year shouldn't really need a second heat mat. My cold end is around the 20-22oC mark without a mat at the moment. Probably nothing at all to do with the not eating but maybe worth looking into further.

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Frazer
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
5 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2011 :  21:15:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks I will take 1 of the mats out this evening and see if it makes any difference.
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/05/2011 :  21:21:33  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
how is the heat actually regulated though?
is the set-up the same as his previous keeper had it?
was he previously a good feeder?
does he usually go off food this time of year?
are there any other snakes in the household?
are 3 sides of the glass tank enclosed so he feels more secure?
how many hides does he have and where are they?
how are you defrosting the mouse?
how are you heating up the mouse?
what size mouse are you offering?
does he usually have this size?

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Frazer
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
5 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2011 :  10:34:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
how is the heat actually regulated though? 2 heat mats 1 at each end
is the set-up the same as his previous keeper had it? yes
was he previously a good feeder? yes
does he usually go off food this time of year? only done it one time
are there any other snakes in the household? one about 1ft long
are 3 sides of the glass tank enclosed so he feels more secure? yes
how many hides does he have and where are they? 1 hide in middle of viv
how are you defrosting the mouse? sticking on radiator for 3hours and in microwave for 30secs
how are you heating up the mouse? sticking on radiator for 3hours and in microwave for 30secs
what size mouse are you offering? small mouse
does he usually have this size? yes
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2011 :  12:26:47  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
ok, so your heat mats aren't regulated - the temps could be an issue, how are you measuring the temps? and where are the heatmats actually situated?

the lack of hides could be an issue, he needs at least one in either end of the viv

your defrosting technique is questionable
as is your heating technique

have a good read of the site and use the 'search' facility

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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2011 :  12:43:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd agree your heat mat needs a thermostat to actually control the temperature, if neither mats are regulated by a thermostat it will be like an oven in there, they heat themselves through their belly so you need digital thermometers located on the ground the snake is on to monitor the temperature, if its not touching the ground your measuring air temprature and IF the air temp is where you are getting your readings, those mats are extrememly hot.

I have 3 hide, cold end, hot end and middle, this way they feel secure and are able to thermoregulate by moving between the temperatures. In the middle is no good, even if your temperatures are correct (which they are unlikely to be at the moment).

Your not defrosting the mouse your cooking it, they dont eat cooked meals. Just sit it out for 3 hours at room temperature and it will be defrosted. To check its defrosted just place it in your hands, you'll feel if its still cold. Another reason you dont microwave them is they are in effect a bag of goo and gases, put too much heat into them and they will expand the gases and burst, you'll be picking mouse guts out of the microwave for ages, also if they dont burst in the microwave they still might when your snake constricts it.

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

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Frazer
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
5 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2011 :  18:06:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, I will do what you suggest and let you know how I get on. Thank for the advise. Frazer
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