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LynneM_212
Hatchling
United Kingdom
236 Posts |
 Posted - 03/02/2011 : 13:24:18
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Ive been hearing about how everyone feeds their snake in a different place and im interested.
The guy i bought my snake from breeds them and is a reptile obsessed guy, but he never mentioned to me abotu feeding her in a different place??
Ive been feeding her in her faun and i have dropped the pinkie a couple of times and ahd to get substrate off, id just like to know what people think because i am slightly worried everytime i put my hand in shes is going to think im food, seeing my snake seems to hate me at the moment!!
Also ive just moved her onto 2 pinkies, do i feed her 1 wait for it to go to her stomach and then feed her the other or??
And do i now just finish the pinkies off and move ehr on to the next size which is fuzzies am i right??
God im such a worry worm!! i swear she hates me as she poos on me and everythign loads its like a habit!! |
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Oh How Original
Yearling
United Kingdom
591 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2011 : 13:40:01
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I'm no expert, but I personally think it's a little bit of a myth about having to feed them away from the viv.
Some people believe in it and some don't.
I've always fed mine isn't the vivs.
Also moving up to 2 pinkies, I would suggest after her mouth has closed from the first one, wait around 30 seconds then offer the second (provided the pinkie isn't still right at her head)
That's what I was told and it works fine for my corn.
Hope this helps. |
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/02/2011 : 14:01:48
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I personally feed mine in a seperate container for a few reasons, the main ones being so they don't ingest any substrate and to lessen the risk of them becoming viv defensive.
If you choose to feed in the faun then just put some kitchen roll on top of the substrate and lay the pinky on there. When I've fed my small hatchies pinkies in doubles I just put them both down together and let the snake eat them in his own time. Once you have used up the pinkies the next size is fuzzies or fluffs, it just depends what the supplier calls them!
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lrv2307
Yearling
United Kingdom
863 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2011 : 16:07:15
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Originally posted by Oh How Original
I'm no expert, but I personally think it's a little bit of a myth about having to feed them away from the viv.
Some people believe in it and some don't.
I've always fed mine isn't the vivs.
Also moving up to 2 pinkies, I would suggest after her mouth has closed from the first one, wait around 30 seconds then offer the second (provided the pinkie isn't still right at her head)
That's what I was told and it works fine for my corn.
Hope this helps.
if you dont want snakey to become viv defensive (atacking you every time you put your hand in), then its better and more facinating to feed them outside their viv/faun. you can keep an eye on how they are feeding
my corn has just gone onto fuzzies, i fed her two pinkies one at a time, till i noticed there was hardly any bump in her body then moved up to fuzzies
its ok to be a worry wort, i was the same trust me, talk about neurotic lol that was me
but deff, if you feed her in a diff tank would be easier, i use a clean take away tub. she gets handled more then, and you can see how shes feeding, and do a quick spot clean of her faun while she is having dindins |
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thistle
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1757 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2011 : 16:53:35
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I haven't had Barnaby long, but after reading the advice on this forum I decided to feed him in a separate tub.
I've fed him twice now and the second time he obviously recognised his feeding tub because he seemed to go into hunting mode as soon as I put him in it. I held the mouse with tweezers and it had barely gone over the top of the tub before he struck and constricted.
It's completely up to the individual whether they decide to feed in or out of the viv, but I think a separate feeding tub is a great idea. As well as the dangers of them ingesting substrate or getting viv defensive, I like the idea that the snake knows it's going to get fed as soon as he goes in it and his mind gets into that 'zone'. |
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Benji54
Hatchling
United Kingdom
449 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2011 : 17:38:23
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| i always feed in a seperate tub. stops risk of ingesting substrate, they are less likely to miss and hit glass/ hide/ water bowl etc and mostly because it reduces viv defensiveness and the chance of getting tagged on the hand...a couple of mine are very "eager" feeders! i use a large toy tub for mine. because of prismas condition i have gone back to viv feeding temporarily to reduce the risk of spreading the virus. im not sure what to do about serendipity, i dont want her getting defensive again after we've made such progress bu tthe is NOTHING i have big enough to put her in!!! |
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/02/2011 : 18:00:34
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I also feed in a different tub but it is personal choice and there is no right or wrong way.
I like to weigh mine before I feed them so they are out the viv anyway. I also love watching them feed and get a great view when they are in a tub :) |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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MacSpud
Hatchling
United Kingdom
143 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2011 : 19:24:23
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| Beakers over a year old, always fed in his Viv and has never struck at me or become defensive. I do however feed him on kitchen roll in the viv and introduce him back into the viv (after weighing him etc) with the mouse already present. |
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2011 : 23:51:34
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I feed all 15 of mine in the viv- none are "viv defensive". I personally think this is one of the biggest, most ridiculous misconceptions about feeding snakes.
I also feed on loose substrate for many of them (dry prey only) and again I have never witnessed a single problem. |
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LynneM_212
Hatchling
United Kingdom
236 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2011 : 08:13:44
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| Arghhh now im sooo confused on what to do, she has been feeding ni her viv on substrate, because i wasnt told any different, i have been thinking about doin it in a seperate place but im worried about picking her up after to put her back in and reguring?? any advice?? |
1 corn snake: Kchalice-Serendipity
2 dogs: Kane and chester
1 C0ckatill: Rolo
1 gold fish: chips
2 Cats : Max and Jess
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razza
Hatchling
United Kingdom
113 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2011 : 15:53:31
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you should be fine, just wait for the food to reach the stomach(half way way down her body) then gently pick her up and put her back in. if you don't want to pick her up you can also just hold the tube to the viv and let her slide in her self
i have only just started feeding justin outside his viv, and he does not mind me picking him up after.
hope this helps |
 
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Benji54
Hatchling
United Kingdom
449 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2011 : 15:58:03
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Originally posted by SexyBear77
I feed all 15 of mine in the viv- none are "viv defensive". I personally think this is one of the biggest, most ridiculous misconceptions about feeding snakes.
I also feed on loose substrate for many of them (dry prey only) and again I have never witnessed a single problem.
your free to pop round mine and show me that serendipity isnt viv defensive. might not seem so ridiculous then!  |
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CSN
Hatchling
United Kingdom
205 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2011 : 16:07:38
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i feed karma in her viv and always have. she knows my hand is not food because it doesnt smell like mouse lol.
your snakey is probs just a bit scared when handling. keep at it and all will be well
Also if she is pooing on you its only because she is relaxed with you. so see it as a plus not just as a poo on the hand lol |
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Edited by - CSN on 04/02/2011 16:09:01 |
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LynneM_212
Hatchling
United Kingdom
236 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2011 : 17:09:58
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| lol i thought she was pooing on me becasue shes related my smell to pooing !! lol or that i was scaring her '****less' lol poor girl also with the weight thing i just saw that somones same is 15 inches long and 40 g im slightly worried now as mine 18 - 19 inches and only 24 g :S |
1 corn snake: Kchalice-Serendipity
2 dogs: Kane and chester
1 C0ckatill: Rolo
1 gold fish: chips
2 Cats : Max and Jess
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CSN
Hatchling
United Kingdom
205 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2011 : 17:12:01
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| lynne dont worrie about the weight aslong as your snakey doesnt loose weight drastically. it will be fine. |
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simonw
Hatchling
United Kingdom
128 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2011 : 18:46:04
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I'm a viv feeder. Usually feed by hand (holding mouse by tip of tail). Sometimes substrate gets stuck to the mouse/ rat, but doesn't go in their mouths, as they rub it off as they take it in. I always watch them in any case. Each to their own.
I let them have a little chase of the mouse round the viv, so they get a feel for the real hunt, and it seems to improve their feeding response and strike.
They never thank me though. |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3556 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2011 : 21:27:01
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| I do both depending on the snake and how much time i have. Izzy wont eat outside his viv or if he is handled before a feed. The others will eat in or out. Alice and Swayze sometimes have their dinner on a sheet on the living room floor just so they can have a bit more room. Sometimes I have guests round that have never seen a snake eat so I feed in a seperate tub to demonstrate |
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SexyBear77
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3796 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2011 : 22:18:18
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quote:
Originally posted by Benji54
quote:
Originally posted by SexyBear77
I feed all 15 of mine in the viv- none are "viv defensive". I personally think this is one of the biggest, most ridiculous misconceptions about feeding snakes.
I also feed on loose substrate for many of them (dry prey only) and again I have never witnessed a single problem.
your free to pop round mine and show me that serendipity isnt viv defensive. might not seem so ridiculous then!
I fear you have misunderstood my post. I am not saying that there is no such thing as viv defensiveness. I am saying that the idea that viv defensiveness can be caused directly by feeding in the viv is ridiculous. I certainly have not witnessed any hint of evidence to the connection between viv feeding and defensiveness in any of my 15 snakes.
My royal python, carpet python, and 10 out of the 12 corns are fabulous strike feeders- they strike, constrict and actively are seen to "hunt" the mouse on the tongs. I can handle any of these agressive strike feeders on ANY day other than feeding day with not so much as a tail rattle, and certainly no viv defensiveness.
I would far more expect to be bitten and my hand or wrist constricted by any of these snakes than to witness s-shaping, tail rattling and quick striking if such behaviours were related to feeding within the snakes territory. In my experience, viv defensiveness is a reaction to a perceived threat- something (eg: a hand) entering the snakes enclosure.
To see defense and threat behaviours (protective actions) associated with food being introduced to the snake (a positive action) is, in my opinion, total nonsense.
I am also a snake section moderator over on RFUK (the "dark side" as its referred to on here) and many professional and experienced keepers and breeders agree that viv defensive caused by feeding in the viv is a load of rubbish. |
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Edited by - SexyBear77 on 04/02/2011 22:27:26 |
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Thante
Hatchling
United Kingdom
301 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2011 : 00:32:22
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I feed my two out of their Vivs but not only to stop them becoming viv defensive.
Wile they are both eating it gives me chance to really check there vivs, give them a clean, and change substrate. By the time i'm done there done eating.
Also, While Cherry was still healing from the eye operation it was easyer to watch her eating (i had nightmares of the stitches pooping out while she stretched her mouth haha) in a feeding tub instead of the viv. |
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