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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
 Posted - 31/12/2010 : 09:33:27
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Is Patrick a ghost corn? I have had comments from a friend that he resembles a rat snake that they used to own. They say this because of his underbelly colouring and his eyes. His belly is white at the top of his body and then gets patches of dark colouring half way down becoming more and more the further down you go. His eyes are a greyish blue colour. I havent got any close ups of him at the moment as he can be temperamental. I thought he was a ghost corn because he has slight yellowing down his sides, didn't think rat snakes have this.
Having looked at some pics on google images I can see some resemblence to rat snake but then corns are related to rat snakes!! |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 09:39:36
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There is an old post post on here from previous owner with some nice pics but don't know how I can show this post?
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Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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stotty01
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1168 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 10:27:22
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| corn and rat snakes are part of the same family. If you get a better picture of its head we can help as they have different scales alignments |
my aunties, bestfriends, hairdressers, friends boyfriend had a snake and it stretched out to measure him to eat him......true story.....
1.0.0 tortoise
1.0.0 sinaloan milk snake
1.0.0 jack russel
0.1.0 anery corn medusa
1.0.0 snow corn abomninable
0.1.0 royal python priscilla
http://www.youtube.com/user/stotty01 dads youtube channel
Tail n scales, Linton, Cambs, CB21 4XN, Tel no 01223 893 508 http://www.tails-n-scales.co.uk/
wish list: boa! |
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 10:33:43
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| You can see his head clearly in a post by his previous owner but i don't know how to put a link to it or even if thats possible. |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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stotty01
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1168 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 10:39:04
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| save it and upload to photo bucket :) |
my aunties, bestfriends, hairdressers, friends boyfriend had a snake and it stretched out to measure him to eat him......true story.....
1.0.0 tortoise
1.0.0 sinaloan milk snake
1.0.0 jack russel
0.1.0 anery corn medusa
1.0.0 snow corn abomninable
0.1.0 royal python priscilla
http://www.youtube.com/user/stotty01 dads youtube channel
Tail n scales, Linton, Cambs, CB21 4XN, Tel no 01223 893 508 http://www.tails-n-scales.co.uk/
wish list: boa! |
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 10:50:42
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 15:36:28
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| So can I take it that he is definitely a ghost corn then eeji? |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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heatseeker872591
Hatchling
United Kingdom
355 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 15:51:11
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| looks like a corn to me but corns are part of the rat snake family and can easily breed with other rat snakes such as the blak/grey ratsnake, and the great plains rat snake. youll find if you was able to trace your corns family tree theres a high probability that theres one of those rat snakes in the blood line, and i have seen some very very bigger than average corn snakes in pet shops in the past and i believe that is the big rat snake species genetics coming out in em |
[URL=http://www.mybannermaker.com/link.php?nurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mybannermaker.com] [/URL] |
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 16:00:36
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| Unfortunately I can not find anything out about his family tree as his previous owner is/was not at all helpful or truthful. |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
4335 Posts |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 23:07:12
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| A cornsnake is not like a rat snake, it IS a ratsnake! it looks a little like a cross to me. the only real way to tell is a head scale count. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 31/12/2010 : 23:10:26
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| looks very great plains also. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 01/01/2011 : 16:21:32
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| Mikerichards what do you mean by a head scale count? Does a corn have a different amount of scales on its head to a rat snake? If so what number of scales is what and is there a certain area you count from and to? Or have I just made myself look a right idoit. I have to say I have never seen a rat snake up close and personal. Patrick is totaly different to my other corns in temperament and the way he acts and feels when I am brave enought to get him out. |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 09:24:16
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Can anyone explain the head scale count? Can it be done using a previous shed? (hasn't shed for nearly 11 weeks  so i'm keeping my fingers crossed anyday soon). |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2011 : 09:01:56
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As above  |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2011 : 16:54:56
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| sorry, not been on for a while. different species of rats have differing head scale counts, off the top of my head i dont know what they are, 23 rings a bell, but i dont know if thats corn or not corn. i will speak to a mate who has a better idea. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2011 : 16:57:08
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I stole this from another forum.
Cornsnakes, Pantherophis guttatus
Ventrals - 203-240
Subcaudals - 47-76
Dorsals - 20-23
Dorals Blotches - 25-38
Tail & Dorsal Blotches - 34-47
Width of Dorsal blotches - 13-19
Length of Dorsal Blotch - 5-7
Great Plains Ratsnake, Pantherophis emoryi
Ventrals - 197-236
Subcaudals - 58-83
Dorsals - 18-21
Dorals Blotches - More than 44
Tail & Dorsal Blotches - 48-65
Width of Dorsal blotches - 9-15
Length of Dorsal Blotch - 2.5-5.5
I think you will be in the middle, or towards great plains. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2030 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2011 : 18:52:19
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| Thanks for that Mike, now I just need to work out which bit is which and to try and start counting! :) |
Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),
Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)
1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)
0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.
Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.
Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family |
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corn or rat?
