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Claude
Egg
United Kingdom
69 Posts |
 Posted - 27/10/2010 : 16:05:47
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Went into Ameyzoo to buy some mice today for my corns and whilst waiting for them to be counted out, turned round to see this cute little Hognose snake tapping it's upturned nose at me saying BUY ME.
I didn't but I was so tempted.
So... anyone have a hognose? What are they like to own? Dis/similar to Corns?
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1.0.0 Snow - Claude
1.1.0 Carolina - Heidar and Suki
WISH LIST - Fire, Sulpher
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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן
United Kingdom
8173 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2010 : 17:37:45
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I've got a little hoggie, aside from that i'm not a great deal of help at the moment. 
Have a looky on our sister site www.thehognosesnake.co.uk for more specific info. |
-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3556 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2010 : 19:44:45
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| I love hoggies. I don't know how you resisted. I'd do some quick swattin up on their requirements to see if you can meet them then go back to the shop tomorrow and put a hold on it. That way you can be sure it's yours while you sort out your equipment and do more research. And we expect pics when you get it lol |
4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire
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Tiffany-x
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1189 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2010 : 20:05:27
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Their care is pretty much the same as corns. They are fantastic, really beautiful and such amazing characters! All that you have to watch is their temperament, they can be huffy, as in getting their hood up and making the "rattling" noise through their nostrils. You must also consider their bite, because although they are only likely to bite in a confusion for food, if you are allergic to other bites or stings you are likely to be allergic to the hoggie bite because of the toxins in their saliva. I hope this helps you. :)
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rachiepotatoe
Hatchling
United Kingdom
393 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2010 : 21:24:44
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I'm going to get shot for this...but hey
I dislike hognoses! *runs away* 
I don't know what it is about them! They just sort of freak me out with their...nose which is all hogged! lmao
I'm sure theyre lovely creatures to own, but I'll stick with my corn I think  ! |
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Tiffany-x
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1189 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2010 : 22:01:36
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How very dare you! :P I love them, I think they look like something that would be a childs toy because they have huge eyes and really pretty little faces! :P
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stotty01
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1168 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2010 : 22:11:18
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| they are smaller than corns :) i think they average round 2ft, correct if im wrong :) they are slightly venomous...it wont kill you or harm you to much as they are rear fanged and it apparently feels like a bee sting, they normally eat fish so make sure the store has got it feeding pinkies :) they sometimes play dead and give of a smell if feel threatened |
my aunties, bestfriends, hairdressers, friends boyfriend had a snake and it stretched out to measure him to eat him......true story.....
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1.0.0 sinaloan milk snake
1.0.0 jack russel
0.1.0 anery corn medusa
1.0.0 snow corn abomninable
0.1.0 royal python priscilla
http://www.youtube.com/user/stotty01 dads youtube channel
Tail n scales, Linton, Cambs, CB21 4XN, Tel no 01223 893 508 http://www.tails-n-scales.co.uk/
wish list: boa! |
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Tiffany-x
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1189 Posts |
Posted - 27/10/2010 : 22:30:40
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Originally posted by stotty01
they are smaller than corns :) i think they average round 2ft, correct if im wrong :) they are slightly venomous...it wont kill you or harm you to much as they are rear fanged and it apparently feels like a bee sting, they normally eat fish so make sure the store has got it feeding pinkies :) they sometimes play dead and give of a smell if feel threatened
They can be anything between 1-4ft but usually around 2-3 I believe, and their is usually unlike corns a difference in size between males and females with the females obvious being largest. I dunno which is correct or whether they are the same thing but someone told me that they arent actually venomous, they constantly have toxins within their saliva which just causes an irritation when you are bitten.
The coolest thing about them is when they play dead, they lay on their back mouth open etc, and if you roll them back over to their front they flip themselves onto their back again! So adorable! :P And the smell (musk) is usually given off when playing dead because it is supposed to replicate the smell of rotting flesh but in hoggies bred in captivity it can be released at other times I believe.
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smiffy89
Hatchling
United Kingdom
342 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2010 : 01:18:11
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| or you could read offical info at http://www.thehognosesnake.co.uk/hognose_snake_care_sheet.htm which should explain most things and is compiled by pro keepers also look at signin up and ask sum questions on the forum so you can get answers from REAL HOGGIE OWNERS as their are sum responses to this post are incorrect eg venemous |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2010 : 23:02:06
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Originally posted by Tiffany-x
Their care is pretty much the same as corns. They are fantastic, really beautiful and such amazing characters! All that you have to watch is their temperament, they can be huffy, as in getting their hood up and making the "rattling" noise through their nostrils. You must also consider their bite, because although they are only likely to bite in a confusion for food, if you are allergic to other bites or stings you are likely to be allergic to the hoggie bite because of the toxins in their saliva. I hope this helps you. :)
Tiffany-x
Damn, i am highly likely to get banned replying to you one of these days.
The rattling is more commonly known as hissing, they do it a lot.
Yes they are huffy, but they mostly bluff, they strike with a hiss and keep their mouths closed.
they ARE venemous, which means they have a toxin and they are capable of delivering it via fangs in the rear of their mouth, hence why they are rear fanged colubrids.
Alergic reactions to their bites are unlikely, their venom is very very mild and is unlikely to cause any reaction, although itching has been reported. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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mikeyd_26
Yearling
United Kingdom
716 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2010 : 23:20:42
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LOL!!? /\
Do it! The more snakes the merrier i reckon! I started in june and im getting my fourth next week!!!! :) |
   
0.1.0 amel - TaLuLa
0.1.0 anery motley het amel, hypo - Bo
1.0.0 vanishing stripe unknown - Marley
1.0.0 hogg island boa - Iggy
0.1.0 hogg island boa - Luna
0.1.0 royal python - Buttons!
1.0.0 royal python 66% het albino - Steve
0.1.0 leopard gecko - Sheila
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lee2308
The Corn Snake Moderator
United Kingdom
3348 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2010 : 23:25:50
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Originally posted by Tiffany-x
Their care is pretty much the same as corns. They are fantastic, really beautiful and such amazing characters! All that you have to watch is their temperament, they can be huffy, as in getting their hood up and making the "rattling" noise through their nostrils. You must also consider their bite, because although they are only likely to bite in a confusion for food, if you are allergic to other bites or stings you are likely to be allergic to the hoggie bite because of the toxins in their saliva. I hope this helps you. :)
Tiffany-x
how many hoggies do you have tiff,i personly dont like them but they sound very interesting |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 29/10/2010 : 08:34:34
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Originally posted by smiffy89
...as their are sum responses to this post are incorrect eg venemous
actually they are venomous........and if you do react to stings there is a much higher risk that you'll react to a hoggie bite. see here... http://www.herpnet.net/bite/ |
cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos
Location:Leeds/York/Selby area |
Edited by - gingerpony on 29/10/2010 08:51:21 |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 29/10/2010 : 08:47:47
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Originally posted by lee2308
how many hoggies do you have tiff,i personly dont like them but they sound very interesting
i don't have hoggies.........i don't have royals........i don't have rainbow boas, kings or milks. doesn't mean i know nothing about them 
edit,was supposed to qoute not edit,opps |
cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos
Location:Leeds/York/Selby area |
Edited by - lee2308 on 29/10/2010 22:59:13 |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 29/10/2010 : 10:42:07
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Originally posted by gingerpony
quote:
Originally posted by smiffy89
...as their are sum responses to this post are incorrect eg venemous
actually they are venomous........and if you do react to stings there is a much higher risk that you'll react to a hoggie bite. see here... http://www.herpnet.net/bite/
I think you will find that is EXACTLY what he was saying. |
Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 29/10/2010 : 11:11:31
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apologies if i've misread smiffy's post, i've re-read it and it still sounds like 'some info posted on this thread is incorrect eg that hoggies are venomous'
the link i posted was valid back-up to that fact, albeit a deliberately emphasized example. |
cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos
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smiffy89
Hatchling
United Kingdom
342 Posts |
Posted - 29/10/2010 : 11:52:36
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quote:
Originally posted by gingerpony
quote:
Originally posted by smiffy89
...as their are sum responses to this post are incorrect eg venemous
actually they are venomous........and if you do react to stings there is a much higher risk that you'll react to a hoggie bite. see here... http://www.herpnet.net/bite/
 this was my point gp as i didnt want any one to be misinformed on the subject is i personally think its a subject that should be left to those who have the knowledge.especially when its advising a fellow forum member who is looking into keeping a venomous snake,as im sure you will know gp in some cases bites from hoggies in very extreme cases can cause anaphylactic shock which is why i advised that claude read the proper links and info before hand and at the same time educate those that didnt know.
as for my previous post i didnt say that the post was right or wrong i just said info was incorrect |
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hiper2009
Banned
United Kingdom
2197 Posts |
Posted - 29/10/2010 : 11:55:10
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Alison , That link is amazing never knew that   |
0.0.0 Royal Python Het Pied 100% CB10 - Chaos
1.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB10 - Bow/Mayhem
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 29/10/2010 : 13:20:38
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| i mis-read it then smiffy i've absolutely no problem with what you posted |
cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos
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Katie.Dublin
Sub Adult
Ireland
1560 Posts |
Posted - 29/10/2010 : 13:38:04
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| Don't like hoggies either really! The nose just doesn't appeal to me! |
     
0.1 normal (Miami) - Hugo
0.1 hypo Motley - Spunky
0.1 MBK - Tequila. RIP
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 29/10/2010 : 14:22:19
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Nice little pic of a Hoggy skull, you can quite clearly see the fangs in question, like most rear fanged, they are not actually REAR fanged, they sit more or less just under the eye area, and if you look at the shape of the mouth, and those of other rear fnaged species, such as the false water cobra, twig snake, mangrove snake, boomslang and the diadem (i think the only rear fanged rat snake) you will see that it has a pronounced curve towards the back, giving them a much better opportunity to strike and make contact with the fangs.
The venom itself will do you no harm, however, the reaction it can cause, anaphalactic shock, is very serious and often fatal in a surprisingly short space of time.
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Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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