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mightymeated
Egg

53 Posts

Posted - 13/10/2010 :  16:03:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi all i have been thinking of getting a snake now for a while. and after some research i think a corn snake is the one for me. but there is a few questions i cant get a straight answer to so i thought someone on here will know. first is what exactly does morphs mean. and what does single/double/triple/quad.trait mean. please can someone let me know as i want to be totally clued up before i think of buying one cheers :)

bigal
Egg

United Kingdom
70 Posts

Posted - 13/10/2010 :  16:26:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am sure others can give a more technical answer but morphs are captive bred snakes that result in different colours/patterns of snake.

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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3070 Posts

Posted - 13/10/2010 :  16:39:52  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The morph is the name given to the trait or particular combination of traits which makes the colour of the snake.

single/double/triple and quad trait referre to the amount of trates it takes to make that morph.

For instance snow is a double trait morph. The traits are Amelanistic and Anerythristic (Amel + Anery).

Amel and Anery are both single trait morphs as it is the only trait needed to produce that certain visible colouration.

0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky

0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha

Location: Liverpool

Edited by - DannyBrown91 on 13/10/2010 16:40:27
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 13/10/2010 :  18:15:59  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
morph basically means a cornsnakes paint job - its a different colour to the wild cornsnake. Have a look here for some idea of how different they can be: http://iansvivarium.com


Forum - Guide to Cornsnake Morphs - Punnett Square Calculator - Breeder Directory
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Gaz_1989
Yearling

United Kingdom
931 Posts

Posted - 13/10/2010 :  21:04:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was going to say, take a look at Ians vivarium.

Most if not all of the morphs are on there and they are categorised into the trait groups.

Let us know if you decide to go ahead and get one. There are lots of people here to help.

Gaz

0.0.1 CB15 Amel Corn - Billy
1.0.0 CB16 Brazilian Rainbow Boa - Hunter
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Kehhlyr
ǝʞɐɔ sǝʌoן

United Kingdom
8173 Posts

Posted - 13/10/2010 :  23:11:51  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
morph basically means the colour of it.
multi traits (double, triple etc) basically mean the different colours it could produce with breeding.

-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon

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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5853 Posts

Posted - 14/10/2010 :  10:23:01  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Have you got some idea what morph (colour) you want? If you've looked on Ians vivarium website I bet you have a very long list!! There are some awesome snakes on there.


Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 14/10/2010 :  11:33:36  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
"multi trait" also covers the morphs involved in creating another morph eg. a snow is made up of amel and anery, snow is therefgore a double trait morph

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

Location:Leeds/York/Selby area
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mightymeated
Egg

53 Posts

Posted - 14/10/2010 :  16:06:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi there thanks for all your responses. i think i understand it now. cheers :) i do have a few morphs in mind after looking on ians vivarium. im looking for a hypo/diffused/motley/lava/okeetee/strawberry/ sunkissed/. i live in wrexham so does anyone know anywhere local i could buy any of theses. must be hatchlings or very young so it grows up to know me...cheers :)

life love and liberty for all :0)
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3070 Posts

Posted - 14/10/2010 :  16:42:16  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
You may have trouble finding the Lava, sunkissed, strawberry and a genuine okeetee.

Have a little search on the internet for a local rep shop, eeji may also know a breeder local or not so far away from you.

0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky

0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha

Location: Liverpool
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 14/10/2010 :  21:11:55  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A very well respected breeder over your way is lex at lexcorns. If she doesn't have what you're looking for she may know who does. You can pm her through ians viv or contact via lexcorn.co.uk


Forum - Guide to Cornsnake Morphs - Punnett Square Calculator - Breeder Directory
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Lixra
Hatchling

United Kingdom
286 Posts

Posted - 14/10/2010 :  21:41:55  Show Profile  Click to see Lixra's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have a Caramel Motley that I bought off a local breeder, but he actually got her from Lexcorns. Gorgeous snake, and if go to her website you'll definitely start drooling... my husband gets jealous heh :)

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mightymeated
Egg

53 Posts

Posted - 15/10/2010 :  11:24:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi thanks for the advice do you know where lexcorns is based. as i want to view and handle my new snake before i buy. cheers:)

life love and liberty for all :0)
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FiestaSTLou
Yearling

United Kingdom
556 Posts

Posted - 15/10/2010 :  12:21:08  Show Profile  Visit FiestaSTLou's Homepage  Click to see FiestaSTLou's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
http://www.lexcorn.co.uk/

chester, cheshire.

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mightymeated
Egg

53 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2011 :  17:01:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi all i finaly just brought home my new corn snake but i only have a 4 foot viv set up. so can you tell me if the corn be ok going straight in to the big viv thanks alan :)

life love and liberty for all :0)
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
6129 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2011 :  17:03:33  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Unless it's 3ft plus,no.



A very special super, duper thanks for K :3
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2011 :  17:19:59  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
4ft + 2ft = 6ft, so the viv is generally suitable for a 6ft corn...............what size is the one you've bought?

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

Location:Leeds/York/Selby area
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mightymeated
Egg

53 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2011 :  17:25:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
he's a hatchling, approx 12" long. i dont have another tank that i can heat, so wasnt sure if i can just put him in the 4ft tank?

life love and liberty for all :0)
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2011 :  17:32:22  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
easiest thing to do is keep him in the tub you brought him home in, or a tupperware tub with some air holes, then get a faunarium or RUB in the morning
place the tub half over the heatmat over night
a 12" hatchie will either get lost in a 4ft viv or be able to squeeze between the glass panes or escape through any tiny holes drilled for cables, or through the vents (depending on the type)

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

Location:Leeds/York/Selby area
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gingerpony
Queen Bee

United Kingdom
10455 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2011 :  17:34:13  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
if your local chinese takeaway uses plastic tubs they're ideal for hatchies! it may look a bit on the small side but they really do well in them!


oh, and congrats on your purchase

cornsnakes, ratsnakes, bullsnakes, boas and day geckos

Location:Leeds/York/Selby area

Edited by - gingerpony on 19/03/2011 17:35:07
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mightymeated
Egg

53 Posts

Posted - 19/03/2011 :  17:39:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi thanks for the info i will keep him/her in the Tupperware tub he came in what temperature should i set the heat mat to for a hatch ling :)

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