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Posted - 11/09/2010 :  12:11:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi im new to this forum but i av been a member of the royal python forum for about a month ive owned a cor snake for about 6 months now and was looking to get another to house with the one ive already got and i was jus intrested in if its ok to do this :

*if i got two snakes reasonable same size
*same sex
*and if i fed them i did it seperatly

many thanks AJ

~AJG~

CSN
Hatchling

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Posted - 11/09/2010 :  12:22:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well.....I wouldnt advice it because of the stuff i read on here. use the search button to look it up there is alot of threads on this. its a big topic and different people feel different about it but its surely your choice but there might be consequences




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Posted - 11/09/2010 :  12:36:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks alot its jus that my uncle has kept two together for 11 years now with no trouble and i jus want to get more info from other handlers

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gingerpony
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Posted - 11/09/2010 :  16:22:02  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i DO cohabit some of my corns but adhere to strict guidelines to ensure the health and welfare of both snakes........NOT something an inexperienced keeper should be trying IMO

have a good read of this http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1070

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Posted - 11/09/2010 :  23:36:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks alot and wot guidline do you use?
(if u dont mind me asking)

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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 12/09/2010 :  00:25:55  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I used to co-habit as well, the rules I used myself were fairly simple.
I made sure that there was multiple hides over the entire viv. They were always monitored, and one of the most important parts (for me anyway) was that I had a completely empty setup ready to go at the drop of a hat to split them if ever the need arose.

The issues regarding co-habiting isn't only cannibalism, it's also infection and issues surrounding a regurge for example.
If you were to find a regurgitated mouse, or something like blood in poo then how would you know what snake needs veterinary treatment or a bit longer before feeding again..

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eeji
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Posted - 12/09/2010 :  17:59:50  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kehhlyr

.....The issues regarding co-habiting isn't only cannibalism, it's also infection and issues surrounding a regurge for example.
If you were to find a regurgitated mouse, or something like blood in poo then how would you know what snake needs veterinary treatment or a bit longer before feeding again..



....and if it gets to this point then you can instantly double your vet bill because both will need seeing.


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BHAFC72
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Posted - 12/09/2010 :  22:05:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gingerpony

i DO cohabit some of my corns but adhere to strict guidelines to ensure the health and welfare of both snakes........NOT something an inexperienced keeper should be trying IMO

have a good read of this http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1070


Yet you criticize me for housing two snakes together and do it yourself?
What has experience got to do with it? If a snake suddenly turns there's not alot you can do about it if your not there.Since i'm off work long term i can monitor them far more closely then people going to work with years of experience.
You also tried to say my snakes are competing for best spot?
Have you seen my setup? No you haven't.
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josh9961
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Posted - 12/09/2010 :  22:16:28  Show Profile  Click to see josh9961's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
There is no need for rudeness, experience will always be a factor. True, you may be able to monitor mor closely but mote experienced people will know what they are monitoring for.


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Posted - 12/09/2010 :  23:44:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Yet you criticize me for housing two snakes together and do it yourself?
What has experience got to do with it? If a snake suddenly turns there's not alot you can do about it if your not there.Since i'm off work long term i can monitor them far more closely then people going to work with years of experience.
You also tried to say my snakes are competing for best spot?
Have you seen my setup? No you haven't.


if you dont mind could i see a picture of your set up for a rough idea?

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DannyBrown91
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Posted - 12/09/2010 :  23:57:10  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BHAFC72

quote:
Originally posted by gingerpony

i DO cohabit some of my corns but adhere to strict guidelines to ensure the health and welfare of both snakes........NOT something an inexperienced keeper should be trying IMO

have a good read of this http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1070


Yet you criticize me for housing two snakes together and do it yourself?
What has experience got to do with it? If a snake suddenly turns there's not alot you can do about it if your not there.Since i'm off work long term i can monitor them far more closely then people going to work with years of experience.
You also tried to say my snakes are competing for best spot?
Have you seen my setup? No you haven't.



Sorry for hijacking your thread, but i was just wondering @{ BHFC72, how old are the snakes which you are cohabbiting?

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BHAFC72
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Posted - 13/09/2010 :  03:21:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They are 3 months old roughly.My rub which is big enough for both corns has an empty kitchen roll tube at both ends running the full width of the rub as hides.I've recently added a bigger hide box that runs the length of the rub for more comfort for them which they have now adopted as there new home.No signs of any distress from them and no grief when i take them out.I've given them plenty of space each but they still want to curl up together which tells me all is fine.
Whether this remains a long term option i'm still undecided.
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mikerichards
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Posted - 13/09/2010 :  06:27:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BHAFC72

They are 3 months old roughly.My rub which is big enough for both corns has an empty kitchen roll tube at both ends running the full width of the rub as hides.I've recently added a bigger hide box that runs the length of the rub for more comfort for them which they have now adopted as there new home.No signs of any distress from them and no grief when i take them out.I've given them plenty of space each but they still want to curl up together which tells me all is fine.
Whether this remains a long term option i'm still undecided.




You will find you were critisised because you are being irresponsible.
I co habit too, however, you would never, ever find two snakes that young even getting getting within touching distance of each other.

So, that said, I suggest you re evaluate what you said, seeing as you have no idea what your talking about, clearly haven't learnt anything about CARING for your snakes, and no nothing about the person who ADVISED you that it was a bad idea.

And before you have a pop at me, why don't you prove me wrong and tell me why its a bad idea. Maybe that way you can learn something, and will give the op a idea as to why is not a good idea.

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josh9961
Hatchling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/09/2010 :  07:04:11  Show Profile  Click to see josh9961's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Well said mike, at 3 months old were talking about hatchies!


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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin

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Posted - 13/09/2010 :  07:23:37  Show Profile  Click to see Blackecho's MSN Messenger address  Send Blackecho a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BHAFC72

Whether this remains a long term option i'm still undecided.


Don't worry, this decision may be taken out of your hands if you come home to find one large snake...



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gingerpony
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/09/2010 :  10:40:34  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BHAFC72

quote:
Originally posted by gingerpony

i DO cohabit some of my corns but adhere to strict guidelines to ensure the health and welfare of both snakes........NOT something an inexperienced keeper should be trying IMO

have a good read of this http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1070


Yet you criticize me for housing two snakes together and do it yourself?
What has experience got to do with it? If a snake suddenly turns there's not alot you can do about it if your not there.Since i'm off work long term i can monitor them far more closely then people going to work with years of experience.
You also tried to say my snakes are competing for best spot?
Have you seen my setup? No you haven't.


several points BHAFC72
i am an EXPERIENCED keeper, i know my snakes VERY well and would pick up on the very slightest thing AND know how to deal with it. like Kehhlyr i'm able to split them at the drop of a hat with having spare set-ups available. the point i'm making about you is that NONE OF THE ABOVE applies to YOU.
i'm currently on Mat Leave so i'm not at work and the one pair i DO cohabit are proven females ie.they have both actually PRODUCED eggs, not just popped, probed or guessed. theye are also of an age where cannibalism is less likely to happen.
the guidelines i adhere to are in the long co-habiting thread if you actually care to read it.

if you don't grasp the above concept try this:
who is the safer? a new driver just passed their 1st test or an Advanced Driver who has years of experience?

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