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Zincubus
Hatchling

197 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2010 :  23:50:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a young cornsnake , 12 months old and about 15 inches long very slim - only had it about 3 weeks .

Anyways , it's eyes glazed over a few days ago and I assumed that it was going to shed it's skin but today it's eyes are chrystal clear again and it hasn't shed any part of it's skin .

What's goig on ??

Was it a phantam skin shed ???

Urgent !!

DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3070 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2010 :  23:53:03  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Its just a natural part of the cycle he will shed within the next few days.

0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky

0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha

Location: Liverpool
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HannahB
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
5491 Posts

Posted - 13/08/2010 :  23:54:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
dont panic!!
its normal they like to confuse us - he'll shed soon
look forwards to seeing pics of him all shiny!


2.0 Normal Royal Pythons - Q and Little One
1.0 Chihauhaun Mountain Kingsnake - Simba



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Zincubus
Hatchling

197 Posts

Posted - 14/08/2010 :  01:21:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So am I correct in just leaving the snake be for a few days , just changing the water !?

It usually gets fed 2 pinkies on a Sunday but I plan on leaving it an extra 4 or 4 days or until after it's shed it's skin .
Does that round ok to you peeps ??

Edited by - Zincubus on 14/08/2010 01:22:37
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Kellog
the nice one

United Kingdom
7308 Posts

Posted - 14/08/2010 :  03:45:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Zinc, you have been given the right advice here....and dont worry, a lot of new owners have been caught out when their snake's eyes go clear but there is no shed skin in their viv !

HannahB and DannyBrown are right, and it can take anything from a couple of days from its eyes clearing up to nearly a week or even over....so try not to worry.

What you need to look out for then is it being a bit more active, then rubbing its head along the sides of its viv, hide, any branches, etc. This happens because it is trying to loosen the shed from around its jaw....and once that has loosened then it can happen very quickly! But be warned....I am convinced there is a corn-conspiracy ! They seem to wait until their owners leave the room and then slip out of their old skin and slither round quite happily in their new bright colours showing them off when their owners return to the room....with their old skin lying forlorn in the corner . Seriously though, a lot of corns shed at night and I know a number of members havent had the chance to see their corns shed....despite keeping them for a number of years. So I really do hope you get lucky and get to see your corn shed.

What is vital once it has shed is checking the shed skin for the eye caps and tail tip....as if these are retained they can cause problems. If the shed is not a clean one then you know where you can come for help.

It is a personal choice I think about feeding and handling during the period of them going blue and shedding. I am one of those owners who has chosen not to feed or handle. To my thinking they are very vulnerable at this time as their eyesight is compromised, so in the wild they would be hidden away....not out looking for food. I also know that missing one meal isnt going to make any difference. BUT this is only my personal choice and I know lots of members do feed their snakes - and some snakes will feed while blue but others wont. I also dont handle during this time, as even once their eyes have cleared they are partially blind and I want to avoid as much stress for them as possible (probably the hardest time for me as I get withdrawal symptoms from not having my snake time !!).

So my personal advice would be for you to wait until your snake has shed before feeding it, it wont do it any harm at all....but I must stress that that is only how I feel and others will respond differently. At the end of the day the choice is yours.

Let us know how the shed goes and we will want pics of your snake looking all bright and shiny of course !

xxx



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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5853 Posts

Posted - 14/08/2010 :  12:07:58  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
They go 'blue' then the eyes clear and in a few days they shed. Your snake is perfectly normal.
Regards to feeding...some feed while their snake is in shed others wait until after they've shed. It's just personal choice. I carry on with everything as usual when our Sids is in shed. I still handle, feed and have him out as normal and he's happy with that. Some snakes don't like being touched and will hide away because they go blind when they're blue. You'll just have to see how your snake reacts. Hope that helps. Any more worries, just ask!! Now you've just got to wait for a lovely shiney, new looking snake to appear!!!


Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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elament
Yearling

United Kingdom
942 Posts

Posted - 14/08/2010 :  12:32:15  Show Profile  Send elament a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The above advice is spot on regarding shedding. As for the feeding I am split both ways. One of mine feeds during the "blue" stage the other wont. With the one that will I generally keep feeding her but I avoid excessive handling. The other one that wont go near a mouse when in shed I leave until the day after he has shed then I feed him. I also avoid handling him too during shed because as said above their eyesight is impared during this stage so I avoid handling him and just leave him too it. Its up to the snake really wether it will or wont eat during shed but in any case missing a feed wont do it any harm they can go for a long long time without eating.



1.1.0 Amel Corns Colin and Xena
1.0.0 Dog Talan
1.1.0 Cats Wotsit and Willow
1.0.0 Ferret Chaos

Location: Lowestoft Suffolk
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BurnedAtTheStake
Yearling

United Kingdom
915 Posts

Posted - 14/08/2010 :  13:26:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, a couple of mine won't feed while planning to shed, others still love their grub.

My Spider (black corn) regularly goes shiny-skinned BEFORE shedding - very confusing!
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Zincubus
Hatchling

197 Posts

Posted - 16/08/2010 :  23:39:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeeeeaa , it shed it's skin in 3 pieces , 10" , and two 2" pieces , makeing a total of about 14 inches .

Is that normal for a 12 to 13 month corn snake ??

The HEAD part of the shed is AMAZING in that we can see the EYES in the shedded skin !!!
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Paul82
Egg

United Kingdom
90 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2010 :  01:20:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
congrats, glad it went ok, lets see some pics. :]



1.0.0, Rusty (Carolina)
1.0.0, Casper (Snow)
1.0.0, Mitch (miami) he is new but 21 years old.

Princess lady legs (curly hair TARANTULA)

2 Dogs, Bruce (jack russel)
Bella (staffy)

Wish list, Bloodred motley stripe, Candy cane stripe, Childrens python.

Location: Brighton
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5853 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2010 :  09:53:22  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It is quite amazing....even more so to see it happening. So you now have a fresh, shiney snake. Lets see some photos!!!!


Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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Zincubus
Hatchling

197 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2010 :  16:36:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll get my son to sort some pics out asap :7
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3070 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2010 :  16:41:48  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zincubus

Yeeeeaa , it shed it's skin in 3 pieces , 10" , and two 2" pieces , makeing a total of about 14 inches .

Is that normal for a 12 to 13 month corn snake ??




Id say that is probably a little small for a yearling are you sure you have the age right, or that it is deffinitely a complete shed.

0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky

0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha

Location: Liverpool

Edited by - DannyBrown91 on 17/08/2010 16:42:43
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Zincubus
Hatchling

197 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2010 :  20:38:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The shop told me it was born July 09 and maybe earlier !!
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
2901 Posts

Posted - 17/08/2010 :  22:44:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The skin stretches when they shed, so its not an accurate way of measuring them, 14 inches is very small for a year old corn, I would make sure there aren't any patches of skin left on the snake.

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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n/a
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Posted - 17/08/2010 :  23:15:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
billi is a July 09 amel so just over a year old and she is approx 36 inches and as of yesterday 325 grams, the shop did say she was a good sized female when i had her sexed at the weekend. Yours does sound a little on the small side. How much/how often is it fed???

09 Amel Corn
West Mids
STU



Wishlist - Snow, Anery Lavender, Stripe of some sort, Diffused Caramel, Whiteout, Tessera.

Plus a Royal Python.
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3070 Posts

Posted - 18/08/2010 :  11:24:11  Show Profile  Click to see DannyBrown91's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have 2 that are about a year old, around the 2ft mark and weigh in around 70 & 80 grams.

0.0.1 Ghost Corn - Casper
0.0.1 Diffused Corn - Reggie
0.0.1 Amel Corn - Candy A.K.A Baby
1.0 Commom BCI - Rocky

0.1 Japanese Akita - Sasha

Location: Liverpool
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Zincubus
Hatchling

197 Posts

Posted - 18/08/2010 :  21:27:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Whitedog

billi is a July 09 amel so just over a year old and she is approx 36 inches and as of yesterday 325 grams, the shop did say she was a good sized female when i had her sexed at the weekend. Yours does sound a little on the small side. How much/how often is it fed???




It has 2 pinkies once a week .
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