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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 11/08/2010 : 13:38:02
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| As title says, I get mixed results of fuzzies and pinky rats and I'm sure they aren't they same thing. My taken over local now doesn't supply xlarge mice as "nobody was asking for them" so if I can't find anywhere that sells them I need an equivalent :/ They also seem to go out of stock or large mice regularly so is there also a rat equivalent of this that is suitable for a dieting snake? I ask this as I know young rats are fatty and I don't want him to pack on the weight again. |
   
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hillzi
The Lost boy.
United Kingdom
3984 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2010 : 13:42:20
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Originally posted by Sta~ple
As title says, I get mixed results of fuzzies and pinky rats and I'm sure they aren't they same thing. My taken over local now doesn't supply xlarge mice as "nobody was asking for them" so if I can't find anywhere that sells them I need an equivalent :/ They also seem to go out of stock or large mice regularly so is there also a rat equivalent of this that is suitable for a dieting snake? I ask this as I know young rats are fatty and I don't want him to pack on the weight again.
I'm not too sure.. but dont feed as much rats as you would do mice, but whether this'd benefit the snake I dunno.
Have you considered ordering online, Stapler? |
Edited by - hillzi on 11/08/2010 13:44:19 |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2010 : 13:49:28
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Yes but we have a fridge freezer jobby, so not a lot of freezer space. The amount I would order online to get get it pet shop price or cheaper would take up the whole fridge :( I look at some online places like a&n and they seem to stock medium and then ex-breeder which I always thought was ex-large but surely if they were truly ex-large they would also stock a large :/
There's no way I can store the in my b/f freezer because of his brother. |
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3070 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2010 : 14:03:08
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| An extra large mouse is equivelant to a weaned rat, if you are going to feed rat though, feed them less often. |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2010 : 16:25:35
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Originally posted by DannyBrown91
An extra large mouse is equivelant to a weaned rat
my XL/ex-breeder mice weigh in at 35-45g, my small rat weaners range from 40-90g............
i'd be more inclined to feed 2 large mice per feed and offer a feed every 10-14 days for an adult male corn |
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DannyBrown91
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3070 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2010 : 17:34:42
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Originally posted by gingerpony
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Originally posted by DannyBrown91
An extra large mouse is equivelant to a weaned rat
my XL/ex-breeder mice weigh in at 35-45g, my small rat weaners range from 40-90g............
i'd be more inclined to feed 2 large mice per feed and offer a feed every 10-14 days for an adult male corn
I've noticed that the rats range alot more in weight, i haven't actually got any weaned rats as rocky is still on rat fluffs, so i took that information from a website i reffered to when i was researching about getting a boa.
But i guess it also varies from where you get your mice/rats. |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2010 : 21:05:10
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Originally posted by DannyBrown91
But i guess it also varies from where you get your mice/rats.
very true, one rep shops medium mouse is another rep shops large mouse........... |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2010 : 22:31:35
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| The large mice from the shop seem kind of on the small size. I really don't see the point in feeding two mice and rats are out of the question as I have no idea how often to feed them to a dieting snake. Thanks though I think I will may have to order online or go mouse hunting :( |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2010 : 08:33:07
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Originally posted by Sta~ple
I really don't see the point in feeding two mice............
because you can't get mice the right size...? 
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2010 : 09:31:24
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True but it is more expensive that way and I'm sure 2 large would be more than one xl in weight
Edit: Grrr the main reptile shop in town doesn't sell them either :/ This is so annoying :/ I think I am going to have to feed rats :/ what is a weaned rat? Is that the stage before/after he rat pups or fluffs? |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2010 : 10:17:43
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Originally posted by Sta~ple
True but it is more expensive that way and I'm sure 2 large would be more than one xl in weight
true, to compensate ideally extend the feeding interval (number of days between feeds)
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Originally posted by Sta~ple
what is a weaned rat? Is that the stage before/after he rat pups or fluffs?
rat pups, then fuzzies/fluffs, then weaners hun  nutritionally they're a poor staple diet for a corn but it's better than letting him starve lol |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2010 : 10:44:18
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| This is so annoying no-where literally stocks them as they seem to be a disappointment or something lol. Thanks gp :) Would 1 large mouse every week be a good feeding guide as well? I normally feed one xlarge every 2 weeks. Would the 1 large mouse ever week be better than a small weaners? If I did feed weaners would every 14 days be good, If not how often would I feed? Are weaner rats those rats a tad bigger than x large mice? Sorry, I'm useless with rats lol |
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Azzheasman
Hatchling
United Kingdom
193 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2010 : 19:51:07
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| my petshop does mice in pinkie fluff L or XL and two L is half again what an XL is, personally i would feed 1 large a week its not going to save you any money but should be fine for the snakie just exercise him/her alot i put Austin on the stairs once a week (when i remember and the house is free of scare of snake types ;P) and when i handle him i make him climb up and pull himself around the weight is falling off him (still has a fat ass tho) could look at going on ebay ive seen beer fridges for £20 ish that have little freezers in the top thats what i use (and handy place for beer) and that houses frozen mice for all mine quite happy, then you could order online and save money id say within 6 months you would have saved enough to warrent the fridge then all savings and happy days from then on :D |
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Kellog
the nice one
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/08/2010 : 04:51:52
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Originally posted by Sta~ple
True but it is more expensive that way and I'm sure 2 large would be more than one xl in weight
I know it is a more expensive way to do it Sta~ple, but it may be the only way and I havent found that 2 large mice I feed Silvesta equal more than the x-large I feed Kellog.....but then as GP says....
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Originally posted by gingerpony
one rep shops medium mouse is another rep shops large mouse...........
With Silvesta it is the only way I can do it, 1 large mouse hardly leaves a bump but he is no-where near wide enough to handle x-large yet....
Wish I could help with the rat predicament but know nothing about them, sorry.
I would think that 1 large mouse a week is the way to go, but you know that I am no expert.
Do like Azzheasman's suggestion about the beer fridge with freezer is the way to go, or a mini freezer like these - http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m570.l1313&_nkw=mini+freezers&_sacat=See-All-Categories
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 14/08/2010 : 07:43:30
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I have been looking at freezers, but it seems a bit over the top at the moment to get one for a few jumbos. There seems to be a 3 months/6 month rule on frozen mice as well (although I have been using mice that have been in the freezer for over without ill effects!) and the only way to buy them online and actually break shop price would be to buy a years supply.
I will have to try the 1 large a week me thinks. I can e-mailed some other rep shops around near where I live and one in notts so hopefully they will respond and will stock them :)
Thanks very much though guys. |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 14/08/2010 : 08:38:28
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Originally posted by Sta~ple
...the only way to buy them online and actually break shop price would be to buy a years supply.
or you could try what we do..........?
a group of us that live locally put in a combined order so we get the bulk discounts and free delivery
we order about 3 months supply at a time but we do have a dedicated snake food freezer (and 20+ snakes between me and dazb!) |
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elament
Yearling
United Kingdom
942 Posts |
Posted - 14/08/2010 : 10:20:43
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| Might be a stupid suggestion but have you tried your local freegle group for a freezer. There are a few come up occasionally on my local group although I do not have this problem as my rep dealer delivers my prey weekly so I never have to much of it in the freezer. In case you didnt know freegle is what used to be freecycle where people give stuff they no longer need away for free all you have to do is go pick it up. I have got loads of stuff off freegle to much to mention its ace. |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 14/08/2010 : 12:06:29
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Originally posted by gingerpony
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Originally posted by Sta~ple
...the only way to buy them online and actually break shop price would be to buy a years supply.
or you could try what we do..........?
a group of us that live locally put in a combined order so we get the bulk discounts and free delivery
we order about 3 months supply at a time but we do have a dedicated snake food freezer (and 20+ snakes between me and dazb!)
That would be awesome but I don't really live near anyone here :/
Thanks elament I will try that.
Got a replie from a rep shop in notts, they say they sell jumbos. If the are indeed jumbo's, I can buy them from there. My boyfriend goes near that shop so when he comes home for a weekend or hoilday he could pick me some up :) |
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Rat equivalent of XLarge mice?
