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Posted - 10/08/2010 :  21:42:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We got our Corn a week last Friday and he hadn't eaten for over a week at that point, he went in to shed pretty much when we got him and shed on last Saturday night. We tried feeding him out of his faunarium on Sunday and he wasn't interested, yesterday we tried again adn he didn't take it so I put some paper down in his box and left the pinky in with him overnight. Also he hasn't moved since I got up this morning. The temp are 29.3 and 23.5.
Am I right to be so concerned as he hasn't fed for nearly 3 weeks now. I have handled him a couple of time, to help him shed and to clean his box, and seemed quite relaxed.

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BurnedAtTheStake
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Posted - 10/08/2010 :  21:50:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How old is he? I don't claim to be an expert - my corns aren't full grown yet - but three weeks isn't too long, especially with a change of home and a shed. They often don't move much when settling in - well, there are the bright sparks that roam about, and the quiet ones who just hole up and lurk for a while. Even when they are settled they'll do that anyway.

Hopefully there'll be someone more experienced along soon.

It's worrying when they don't eat regularly - you've got my sympathies - I had one off her food in winter but she's striking and coiling now - they worry the hell out of you and then they just start to eat ...all the very best!
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Posted - 10/08/2010 :  21:54:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He's only about 3 months old according to the pet shop 'expert'
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gmac
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Posted - 10/08/2010 :  21:57:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
3 weeks is not a problem for not eating, with the move and shed it would have been stressful enough so dont panic. you can offer a pinkie again in 3 or 4 days, but dont offer one every day though.



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Kellog
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Posted - 14/08/2010 :  05:58:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Brett....have been away from the forum for a while so have only just caught up with this thread. Have you managed to get Busta to feed yet?

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Posted - 14/08/2010 :  10:52:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not yet, I'm going to try today. He seems to be getting in to a routine of activity over the last few days, since we got the stat and digi thermometer in his faun and got the temp sorted. Fingers crossed he eats and I can relax. Not sure weather to feed him in his faun or take him out though.
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elament
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Posted - 14/08/2010 :  11:05:39  Show Profile  Send elament a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmn there is no right way or wrong way on this. Some feed in the fauns/vivs others feed out. I prefer to feed out of the viv because that way I can be sure that my snakes do not ingest any substrate but you could achieve the same by putting the prey item on something like a large bowl or plate or even newspaper or tissue paper in the viv. You may find he is more likely to eat in the faun/viv as this is where the snake feels safe, plus if he refuses at first you can leave the mouse in there with him overnight and he may take it when no one is looking. I used to viv feed one of mine but he was always dragging the mouse off the plate and picking up substrate with it so i got fed up and eventually got him used to eating out of the viv which wasnt easy as he had gotten used to dining at home.
In any case good luck with it I hope he eats for you today



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BurnedAtTheStake
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Posted - 14/08/2010 :  11:07:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, good luck!
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Posted - 14/08/2010 :  11:12:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I'll put some paper down a couple of hours before I feed so he settles down again by the time it comes to feeding.

Cheers
Brett
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BurnedAtTheStake
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Posted - 14/08/2010 :  11:17:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good idea. Keep us posted.
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elament
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Posted - 14/08/2010 :  12:37:47  Show Profile  Send elament a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yes i think that is a good idea and then when you have him in a regular feeding pattern perhaps you could try feeding out of the viv in perhaps an rub or on a towel. Much easier to get good feeding pics that way too lol



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Posted - 14/08/2010 :  20:41:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I tried feeding him, got the pinkie nice and warm and no joy. He basically went and hid from it. I've left the pinky in his faun but other han that I don't know what to do.

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BurnedAtTheStake
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Posted - 14/08/2010 :  20:59:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ohh... I was so hoping he'd feed for you ...

All you can do now is either leave it in with him or, if he still doesn't respond, wait until the next feeding day and try him again. I'm sure there will be someone along soon with more experience and tips.

All the best! It's so frustrating, isn't it? He will start feeding soon - it's just a question of waiting till he does.
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Posted - 15/08/2010 :  16:54:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Buster didn't eat overnight:-( We took him into the petshop and spoke to the guy there, he got a book out and recommended to try giving the faun a light spray with some water, putting the pinkie in with him and putting the faun somewhere dark, ie the airing cupboard. If that fails the book said try leaving him over night in a small container with just a pinkie, no water or hide. They said they would exchange him but I really don't want to do that as we're quite attached to the little sod. I'm going to move his faun into the viv I built tonight, as it is on carpet and would be quieter than where we have him at the moment (hes on a cabinet which is on wooden flooring in the dining room which is pretty high traffic).

Cheers
Brett
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Kehhlyr
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Posted - 15/08/2010 :  17:28:57  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by razor400

Buster didn't eat overnight:-( We took him into the petshop and spoke to the guy there, he got a book out and recommended to try giving the faun a light spray with some water...........



He got a book out, sounds like he is a fountain of knowledge and experience then...

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BurnedAtTheStake
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Posted - 15/08/2010 :  17:29:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by razor400

Buster didn't eat overnight:-( We took him into the petshop and spoke to the guy there, he got a book out and recommended to try giving the faun a light spray with some water, putting the pinkie in with him and putting the faun somewhere dark, ie the airing cupboard. If that fails the book said try leaving him over night in a small container with just a pinkie, no water or hide. They said they would exchange him but I really don't want to do that as we're quite attached to the little sod. I'm going to move his faun into the viv I built tonight, as it is on carpet and would be quieter than where we have him at the moment (hes on a cabinet which is on wooden flooring in the dining room which is pretty high traffic).

Cheers
Brett



Aww! The operative words are - getting quite attached to the little sod.

I know how you feel - I thought Cy, my Miami, was going to oblige today, but she didn't. She's dead interested, and has fed well in the past, so I live in hopes, but they are awkward little gits aren't they? Good luck to us both!
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elament
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Posted - 15/08/2010 :  18:12:27  Show Profile  Send elament a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Razor if I were you I wouldnt give up on him just yet. I speak from experience here as I have a corn who didnt eat for the first seven months of her life and all it took with mine was a change in enviroment and she was eating like a hog. She soon caught up. Have you tried some of the tips in the thread about non eating snakes. There are loads of good tips on there of things to try before you give up hope things like braining and heating up the head of the pinky are all worth trying. Another one of mine went all hormonal in the spring and he didnt eat a thing for four months and hardly lost any weight at all so try not too panic too much at this stage. I suggest you start with the thread i mentioned and see if you can get any tips from there that may help



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Posted - 15/08/2010 :  18:40:51  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Did he come from the petshop? If things get too desperate you should be able to take him back in which they can try to feed him and give him back or offer you a different snake. It shouldn't get to that though, they can go without feeding for months.

Have you tried something like an empty butter tub with air holes with no water, no hides or anything and putting him in that to feed with a warmed up mouse? If you do this, try and put it in a dark room in which no-one/nothing will go in and leave over night.

Has he/she even eaten before you brought he/she home do you know?



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Posted - 15/08/2010 :  19:48:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
'Mrs Razor400' here with an update on Buster. We are going to try the darkened quiet place (the airing cupboard) tonight and then if that doesn't work, in a small tub with just buster and a pinky tomorrow night but we're gonna try raising the humidity level as this normally rises at night time in their natural habitat. The thing we don't get is that he is displaying quite normal and confident behaviour. He's not hiding out now even during the day in a high traffic area. Every night now for the past 4 evenings he's has a good wander round the faun trying to work a way out, having a drink etc etc. He was a tad freaked out at his journey to the pet shop this avo and just lay curled up in the middle of the faun trying to be invisible but, after only an hour and a half back home he's having a drink and a wander round and now he's just laid outstretched in the open quite chilled. When we've handled him he seems relaxed and really content to be with you. He doesn't seem like one of those snakes that are born weak and just don't make it neither does he seem stressed out. Not giving up yet that's the main thing. We got buster for our 6 year old little girl Caitlin who seems to have a gift for all things animal and reptile so the stakes are high because she's so in love with him. We'll keep you posted and all advice is desperately welcomed. Thanks to everyone that's helped so far.
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Scarlett
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Posted - 15/08/2010 :  20:44:08  Show Profile  Visit Scarlett's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't be so worried if he's active, shedding and drinking regularly. Perhaps try warming the pinkie up just a bit more than usual, wiggle it (as that can trigger a strike feed) or use the other suggestions such as braining (which seems to be a good way to get a non feeder feeding, as something in the scent of the brain seems to be appealing to them). I wouldn't really worry about raising the humidity if I were you, they're hardy little things and I'm sure very few people on here worry about the humidity for a feed. The only time humidity might come in to play is if he's having issue's shedding, but most of the time you'll find people suggest a bath for the snake rather than raising the humidity because it can lead to respiratory infections.


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Posted - 15/08/2010 :  22:20:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by razor400

'Mrs Razor400' here with an update on Buster. We are going to try the darkened quiet place (the airing cupboard) tonight



Please do not put your snake in an airing cupboard!!!
simply cover up the viv/faun if you want to give him some privacy.. in order to digest properly they need to be able to thermo regulate - hence the hot and cold ends.. by putting him in the airing cupboard it would take that away..potentially be too hot for him and if its dampish then it could give him an RI (if it was really dampy and muggy in there) - worst case senario of course..

he'll eat in his own time.. my smallest Aura hasnt eaten on her own since we got her which was back in september last year - took til Feb this year for her to be able to eat half a pinkie! so please dont worry too much - easier said than done but at least hes not a royal!


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