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Posted - 09/07/2010 :  23:46:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just had a clutch hatch that i cant figure out. If someone has can explain it, please do so :)

I bred 2 normal (carolinas) looking corns with eachother and i didnt know anything about any hets.

The male is a carolina stripe that was bred with another normal last year and the offspring was 100% normal looking (het. stripe i guess).

The female is a carolina that has earlier produced aztek offspring (with another striped male) and that was what i was hoping for this year too...

The cluch that hatched was like this:

26 eggs laid

Hatched:
8 carolina
4 anery
3 amel
2 snow
3 hypo
1 ghost
2 anery stripe
1 snow motley
1 normal motley

Last egg died :(

Can anyone figure out the hets on the parents here? However i try, i cant get it together as the offspring is just "wrong" and not possible however i calculate.

/Magnus

Corns:
1.2 Butter, 1.1 Blizzard, 1.1 Anery, 1.1 Creamsicle, 1.2 Ghost, 1.2 Candycane, 1.2 Candycane - orange, 1.1 Caramel, 0.1 Snow, 1.0 Carolina stripe, 0.2 Amelanistic, 0.1 Carolina Motley, 1.1 Pewter, 1.0 Lavender

Cornsnake babies: OMGHI! im not even gonna try to keep up ;)

Others:
1.2 Great plains ratsnake (E.emoryi)

1.1 Ball python - Lesser platinum, 1.1 Ball python - Het pied, 1.1 Ball python - High contrast Albino

2.1 Chihuauha mountain kingsnake (L.p.knoblochi)

Tatsie-j
Hatchling

United Kingdom
209 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2010 :  23:52:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i cant do the hets or work it out 4 u but i will say sounds very lucky 2 me



Anery - Bailey
Amel- Coraline
Normal - Zebedee
Butter Motley - Kitrino
Cats - Danny & Jasper

Location : Lancing, West Sussex
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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/07/2010 :  23:57:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hets are anery, hypo, amel, motley stripe


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eeji
The Morph Master

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Posted - 10/07/2010 :  00:05:03  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
can you post pics of the motley and stripe hatchlings, it should be impossible to get both from a pair of het stripes


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crazy JJ
Fully Grown Corn

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Posted - 10/07/2010 :  13:14:35  Show Profile  Click to see crazy JJ's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
wow... that was lucky though :D

but defo cant help ya with the hets

2.5 corns 2.0 cali kings 1.0 tange hondo milk 1.0 apricot pueblan milk 1.0 royal (overgrown slug) 0.1 tarantula 1.0 chinchilla chico, 0.1 goldfish tigger 0.0.4 minows 0.2 cats fudge and porsha and 0.3.2 tarantula’s that are my mummys
r.i.p to the lil ones that i and mummy have lost recently
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dazb
The Corn Snake Moderator

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Posted - 10/07/2010 :  18:52:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice clutch..


quote:
Originally posted by eeji

can you post pics of the motley and stripe hatchlings, it should be impossible to get both from a pair of het stripes



Could they be het Motley/Stripe?

Would that not give you both?

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eeji
The Morph Master

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Posted - 10/07/2010 :  21:22:52  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
if the parents are het for both, then they'd be visually motleys. The only way I can think that 'both' have been produced is if:

1. the 'stripe' parent is actually a pinstripe motley het stripe AND
2. the normal pattern parent is het motley AND
3. the 'stripe' hatchlings are pinstripe motleys


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dazb
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Posted - 11/07/2010 :  20:43:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What is a pinstripe motley?

What I mean is if they are motleys line bred to look like stripes, hence the Motley/Stripe, would this not give you both motleys and visual stripes (which are actually motleys?)

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hiper2009
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Posted - 11/07/2010 :  21:20:36  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Sounds way to confusing lol

0.0.0 Royal Python Het Pied 100% CB10 - Chaos
1.1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB10 - Bow/Mayhem
0.1.0 Cornsnake Amel Het Motley CB10 - Fire
1.0.0 Cornsnake Caramel Het Motley CB09 - Whisky
1.0.0 Cornsnake Snow Het Stripe CB07 - Romeo - R.I.P

1.0.0 Super Golden Labrador Dog CB02 - Bailey


Wish List:
1.2.0 Royal Python - Pastel , Pinstripe , Lesser.
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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/07/2010 :  23:26:42  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
@Daz - yup :)

pinstripe motley is motley that looks like a stripe, but isn't if you know what i mean


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dazb
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/07/2010 :  11:03:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is Hiper...

Its all to do with when the stripe genetics were first dicovered/proved. Thats why you get Stripes, Motleys and Motley/Stripes.

Cheers eeji, I didnt realise that Pinstripes were what I class as M/S.

Do the same rules apply to classing them as Pinstripes and not Stripes.

ie... The stripe can stop and start as it goes down the body, but the stripes should never join across...?

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eeji
The Morph Master

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Posted - 12/07/2010 :  18:35:02  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
its very variable, so long as theres stripe present on the motley it can be called pinstripe. There is another slight variation that is called 'q-tip' which is like a bit of striping coming out of a motley circle.


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dazb
The Corn Snake Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/07/2010 :  13:54:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah ok... it is all confusing as to what is classed as what when it comes to Motleys/Stripes.

I have posted 3 corns for sale on here which I have classed as M/S's, I would be interested to know what you would class them as, if you dont mind having a look?

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eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/07/2010 :  18:13:43  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i'll look now......

.....here goes:
ghost motley
snow - can't tell properly from the pic, but I'll go with stripe for now
amel stripe


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Edited by - eeji on 13/07/2010 18:18:15
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dazb
The Corn Snake Moderator

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Posted - 13/07/2010 :  20:10:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eeji

i'll look now......

.....here goes:
ghost motley
snow - can't tell properly from the pic, but I'll go with stripe for now
amel stripe




Cheers mate...


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