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Ashcrack
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 13/06/2010 :  17:45:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just had a look in my snakes tank and he's got this little white .. thing on his head looks like a tiny piece of shed but I don't believe he's shedding sadly I don't have a camera to get a picture of it but when my mum next comes up i'll get her to bring her camera if it's still attached.

I don't think his tanks too humid i'll see if I can pick up a hydro.. thingy tomorrow but does anyone think he could of just rubbed a scale off? He has this piece of glass at the top of his tank that he likes to sit on and there's a piece of mesh on the lid relatively close to it.
He was just fed today so I can't pick him up and get a closer look, I didn't notice it when I did feed him

http://www.hkherp.org/adv/adv02/amel4.jpg

This isn't my snake but tiny scale next to the orange one in the middle is what is flaking off on mine, I think.

Sorry if this doesn't make sense to anyone. :(

Ashcrack
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
37 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2010 :  18:18:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can't edit original post.. but the bottom of the lid has screw heads so I think he may have rubbed one off on it but i'm not sure I've covered up the area at the top of his tank temporarily til I can get it sorted properly. I really hope this was it and it isn't scale rot :C, he has a large water bowl down the cool end right in the corner so I wouldn't of thought his tank is too humid, he has two huge vents in the lid meshed over. Is there any other way they can get scale rot?

Oh yeah and also on his belly he has like.. orangey/yellow banding he's had this since I got him 6 weeks ago.

Cheers

Ash

Edited by - Ashcrack on 13/06/2010 18:27:12
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
2901 Posts

Posted - 13/06/2010 :  23:44:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Best thing to do mate is get pics up, its nigh on impossible to diagnose anything without some good quality pics.
Scale rot generally only affects the belly, but in extreme cases it can affect other parts, but by the time that happens its so extreme you wouldny be asking if it is scale rot, you would know.
Screw heads you say, they wont even make a dent on the snake, the scales are their armour, they are there to protect against exactly that sort of thing, not that they come across many screw heads in the wild, but you see my point.

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Kellog
the nice one

United Kingdom
7308 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2010 :  04:54:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry about what is going on with your snake Ashcrack, but as Mike says the best thing is a pic otherwise it is hard for those who are experienced in this sort of thing to work out what is going on. Also maybe not just pics of his head, but also pics of his belly and set-up.

I had a bad shed with Silvesta last week that left him with a new scale lifted on his head, showing the flesh underneath. Different situation to yours I know but first thing I did was remove all the substrate and disinfect the viv. He is now on kitchen roll and has the bare minimum in his viv to avoid any chance of infection. I am hoping that it will either heal or he will shed again soon to heal it. Maybe that is something you should do?

Maybe you could also give some more facts about the set-up....what substrate, what temps, when was last shed and was it ok....any info that might be relevant.

xxx


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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
2901 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2010 :  10:35:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Judith, your boy will be fine, a lifted scale is nothing to worry about, it wont get infected unless its basically exposed raw flesh, it wont do him any harm, the scale will sort itself out in a couple of sheds. My salmon Hypo boa shed a load of his scales just after i got him, he had no scales at all on about 2 inches of his tail, other than feeling a bit strange it didnt have any impact on him at all.

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Ashcrack
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
37 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2010 :  10:55:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He's on aspen, temperature on the warm side is 85, his last shed was a nearly a monthy ago and it came off a bit in pieces towards the tail which I managed to remove by giving him a bath, he ate yesterday, scoffed down 2 fuzzies, he's about 26" long seems healthy, flicking his tongue about etc, his head's small so it's kinda hard to get a good look at it, but where the scale was is a tiny bit of white, as I said it's too small for me to make out what it is, and I should have pictures up sometime later today.

Can't get any decent photos the snake is always out of focus.. might've just been my mum failing at using a camera i'll just have to take him down the vets instead, thanks anyway all

Edited by - Ashcrack on 14/06/2010 22:00:19
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
2901 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2010 :  22:55:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
to be honest, i wouldnt rush to the vets right away, i dont think you will find that it is something that they need to fix, i think its something you can fix yourself without the need for the cost.
when you take a pic, hold his head, not tightly, but enough to stop him moving, they dont like it, but its only a short time, and the vet is gonna do it anyway so may aswell get a pic first!
I think you will find that if you give him a warm bath, and rub his head with a towel, you will find a single scale that has been left on from the shed, it does happen, i have had it happen on more than one occasion, and gose hand in hand with a bad shed. i doubt he is losing a scale, that doesnt happen very often, and usually is caused by something serious which would have left a mark.

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Kellog
the nice one

United Kingdom
7308 Posts

Posted - 16/06/2010 :  06:28:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mikerichards

Judith, your boy will be fine, a lifted scale is nothing to worry about, it wont get infected unless its basically exposed raw flesh, it wont do him any harm, the scale will sort itself out in a couple of sheds........




Thanks Mike, that is what I figured but it is a relief to hear if from someone experienced (and sorry Ashcrack, I didnt mean to hijack your thread, I was just sharing my experience ). I think I will probably keep him on the kitchen roll until he next sheds and then put the substrate back....he seems quite happy and has actually started eating (finally), as has Kellog!

Ashcrack, Mike really does know his stuff so I would definitely follow his advice.

xxx


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