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Blackecho
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness
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Posted - 15/08/2008 : 19:17:25
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It seems your right :) I didnt doubt you, i just thought i read it as being illegal. |
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/08/2008 : 19:32:52
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Have stolen this from another site:
This is quoted from British Parlements resources site.
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Currently under the 1911 Act it is not illegal to feed a live vertebrate to another unless you cause it unnecessary suffering, so that would have to be the result of a court case and the judge would have to make a decision.
Those of us who have been involved with reptiles will argue that a mouse that is being produced for food really has no cognizance of what is going on and exhibits no fear.
Whilst we absolutely do not want to encourage live feeding, we think we need some clarity as to whether that is going to be made illegal under this clause of fighting. Our concerns are, because of Clause 3(iv)(c), the need to be able to exhibit normal behaviour patterns, that snakes in the wild feed on life prey, there are no carrion feeding snakes, so that would mean we are not going to be able to feed them frozen food; we are going to have to feed them live mice, and equally we would be opposed to having to introduce that.
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this practice is currently legal so long as not practised in a public place. There has always been confusion over the legality of this practice as no regulation directly relating to this has ever been decreed. Many millions of rodents are destroyed every year by break back traps and poison, compared to these methods the kill by a snake is swift and efficient
Basically, the laws as they are DO NOT ban live feeding, but experts and animal welfare groups DISCOURAGE it.
The new laws concerning animal welfare may IN THE FUTURE make it illegal, but there is an equal chance that they will make it ILLEGAL TO FEED F/T, or PREKILLED.
Because, under proposed versions, they will make it a legal requirement that natural behavior is exibited, and as said, this would mean live feeding only.
Another proposal outlaws it completely. This would mean alot of dead reptiles(boiga, and other species that will not take FT/prekilled.)
Basically, I cannot see either of these versions getting through, and i foresee the laws remaining the same.
The ambiguity probably arose from other laws, banning fighting such as ****fights, and bull fights etc.
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some people claim that placing a live mouse with a snake for the purposes of a feeding is still deliberate intent to induce them to fight
BUT when it comes down to it, the practice is legal.
I CAN LEGALLY, IF I WANTED TO, PUT A PUPPY WITH A BURMESE PYTHON, THE SAME AS I CAN A MOUSE AND A ROYAL, OR A RABBIT AND A BOA. |
www.theroyalpython.co.uk/forum
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness
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Posted - 15/08/2008 : 21:01:22
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Thats interesting to read.
"The new laws concerning animal welfare may IN THE FUTURE make it illegal, but there is an equal chance that they will make it ILLEGAL TO FEED F/T, or PREKILLED."
I dont get this bit though, or maybe i do, does this mean we could possibly have no micky mice to feed our snakes :s |
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
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Posted - 15/08/2008 : 21:05:48
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It means that its as likely that we won't be able to feed them frozen mice (as its not natural) - will have to feed live as it is that live feeding will be banned. |
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/08/2008 : 21:07:35
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Also BE, do me a favour, dont put a puppy with a burm |
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
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Posted - 15/08/2008 : 21:09:16
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I'll never have a Burm, not a fan of the giant snakes and Wiggle's not ready for a puppy |
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/08/2008 : 21:26:51
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Im the same. I would like a boa in the future, but nothing bigger. |
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/08/2008 : 21:30:04
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A friend has just bought a red-tailed boa and its very cute, will wait and see what its like in a couple of years! |
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/08/2008 : 21:34:21
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Whats their maximum size? i havent handled anything over 6 1/2ft. |
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Blackecho
The Corn Snake Admin
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matty18714
The Count of Corniness
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Posted - 15/08/2008 : 21:41:16
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Well there is hope |
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