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 Posted - 05/10/2008 : 15:53:59
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well as in title really i need lots of info on leos |
cb07 - male - corn snake
cb07 - male - red tailed boa
cb06 - female - salmon pink tarantula
wc - male-female - asian forest scorpions
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Posted - 05/10/2008 : 16:34:05
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You can put Leos on sand.
Do not listen to others. It is absolute bull poo.
Their natural home is in the sand.
We keep them on sand in the reptile centre and they are fine.
They don't need UV, just a heatmat and basking lamp.
Quite a few hides needed and you could keep 3-4 in a 2ft viv.
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Posted - 05/10/2008 : 16:34:05
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You can put Leos on sand.
Do not listen to others. It is absolute bull poo.
Their natural home is in the sand.
We keep them on sand in the reptile centre and they are fine.
They don't need UV, just a heatmat and basking lamp.
Quite a few hides needed and you could keep 3-4 in a 2ft viv.
1 Male, 2-3 females. |
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Posted - 06/10/2008 : 16:31:51
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sooo anoyd i ask my mum n dad today if i was alowd to have one and they said no because i have enuf alredy stupid parants grrrrr |
cb07 - male - corn snake
cb07 - male - red tailed boa
cb06 - female - salmon pink tarantula
wc - male-female - asian forest scorpions
indian stick insects
2 african land snails
soon to be mine-
4 red bellied toads or a emperor scorpion cant decide :P |
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Posted - 06/10/2008 : 17:37:59
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i would agree everything josh said apart from the sand bit.
its a very dodgy subject with everyone having there own opinion.
i personally keep mine on slates tiles. i have been looking in to the use of sand as substrate, but it comes down to the age and size of the gecko and the type/grade of sand. its all down to compaction. ie the gecko licking the substrate and ingesting it.
i keep 1 male in a 2 foot viv and 3 females in a 3 foot viv. |
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Posted - 07/10/2008 : 21:00:21
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| cool thanks guys but stilll not alowd one :( |
cb07 - male - corn snake
cb07 - male - red tailed boa
cb06 - female - salmon pink tarantula
wc - male-female - asian forest scorpions
indian stick insects
2 african land snails
soon to be mine-
4 red bellied toads or a emperor scorpion cant decide :P |
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Posted - 22/10/2008 : 12:17:00
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Sorry dude, I need to Hijack this thread!
Is it ok to keep a couple of babies in a viv about 45cm(long)x25cm(wide)x20cm(tall)? It wouldn't be permanent, just for a month or so? Also, I read somewhere that they can't eat black crickets.. sounded like b*llsh*t to me, but I thought I'd check anyway! |
1.0.0 miami x crimson corn snake (sirius)
0.2.0 leopard geckos (esma and gytha)
2.0.0 emperor scorpions (bebe and jim)
2.0.0 moggies (othello and tachikoma)
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Posted - 22/10/2008 : 17:04:13
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yeah i would say it ok to keep them in that.
as for black crickets i used to feed mine them before i got really frustrated with them escaping and hiding in the viv.
blacks are bigger and more aggressive but mine liked them. |
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Posted - 22/10/2008 : 17:08:13
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| I'm slowly getting used to crickets.. they're pretty nasty buggers though, and a real pain when they escape! I might switch back to mealies depending on what they've been feeding them in the pet store.. though they'd probably get more excercise hunting crickets cheers for the info though! |
1.0.0 miami x crimson corn snake (sirius)
0.2.0 leopard geckos (esma and gytha)
2.0.0 emperor scorpions (bebe and jim)
2.0.0 moggies (othello and tachikoma)
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Posted - 22/10/2008 : 18:44:02
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i found with crickets was they were a pain to dust and feed. kept finding old/dead ones in the viv and behind the curtains..lol.
Also you are not meant to leave uneaten crickets in cos in case they nibble your leos when there asleep.
which means feeding out of the viv.
mealies are good cos alot easyier and the leos can eat wen they want too
not wen you want them to.
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Posted - 22/10/2008 : 18:44:55
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I wouldn't solely feed a lizard on Mealies, you need to maintain the diet.
Maybe crickets, meal worms. For a treat waxworms or a pinky. |
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Posted - 22/10/2008 : 18:53:40
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i do treat my leos to waxies but not too many as they are bad for them cos of the 'chocolate' like addiction they can get to them and wont eat anything else. plus heard something about a growth hormone they are given to get them bigger can affect them when they come to breeding.
but your right they are GREAT in moderation
tried pinkys with mine but wont take them... |
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Posted - 22/10/2008 : 21:48:27
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I heart waxies are alos called Gecko CRACK lol!
I feed all my insectivores on a varied diet of crickets (brown and black) and mealies.. I like them to have variety, it sems more natural. EVerything is gut loaded too. I'm so looking forward to getting a little leo! Saturday off to the pet store I go!! They need magic supplement dust (calcium and D3) too don't they? |
1.0.0 miami x crimson corn snake (sirius)
0.2.0 leopard geckos (esma and gytha)
2.0.0 emperor scorpions (bebe and jim)
2.0.0 moggies (othello and tachikoma)
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Posted - 22/10/2008 : 21:58:29
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| i feed mealies mealworm diet to gut load them, and dust them with nutrobol 1-2 times a week. and there is also a small dish of calcium in the viv so if they want more its on offer for them. which i have seen them using... |
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Posted - 23/10/2008 : 00:33:24
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You don't really need to put the calci dish in, unless you seem them picking at the sand.
Put I'd sugar coat any live food with CalciDust before feeding. |
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Posted - 23/10/2008 : 10:31:05
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There is no WAY after everything I've found on the internet about impaction that my first baby Leo is going on sand  but thats personal preference.. maybe when its a bit older.. besides I'd rather have a calci dish in there than them not be getting quite enough.. and being nocturnal, you're not always gonna see when they're picking at the sand if its in there. The poor things going to have a bit of an artificial existence with me initially.. when I size it up into a bigger viv I'll make something more natural. But I get paranoid about babies, so they must go through their quarantine viv first!! |
1.0.0 miami x crimson corn snake (sirius)
0.2.0 leopard geckos (esma and gytha)
2.0.0 emperor scorpions (bebe and jim)
2.0.0 moggies (othello and tachikoma)
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Posted - 23/10/2008 : 17:07:48
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| If you use compact sand, it isn't as loose, it's nice and hard and you can form it. |
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Posted - 23/10/2008 : 17:48:42
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never heard of compact sand will have to look in to it...
how many and wot leos do you have josh??? |
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Posted - 23/10/2008 : 17:55:37
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Originally posted by dazb
never heard of compact sand will have to look in to it...
how many and wot leos do you have josh???
Ditto 
Also, can you use aspen? I do have a shedload for my snake after all
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1.0.0 miami x crimson corn snake (sirius)
0.2.0 leopard geckos (esma and gytha)
2.0.0 emperor scorpions (bebe and jim)
2.0.0 moggies (othello and tachikoma)
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Posted - 23/10/2008 : 19:29:29
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you got it. bad idea.
its cos in the wild they gain certain minerals that they require from licking the dessert floor. they will eat any any substrate so you gotta be careful.
most breeders use paper or lino. |
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Posted - 26/10/2008 : 22:47:06
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quote:
Originally posted by Josh-sama
You can put Leos on sand.
Do not listen to others. It is absolute bull poo.
Their natural home is in the sand.
We keep them on sand in the reptile centre and they are fine.
They don't need UV, just a heatmat and basking lamp.
Quite a few hides needed and you could keep 3-4 in a 2ft viv.
1 Male, 2-3 females.
JS, I've just dug up some old posts from MM, a guy who really knows his stuff so that you can see why people don't advise sand:
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Originally posted by moneymaker
I wouldn't put babies on sand especially. You should only ever use kitchen towel or newspaper. These geckos will be likely to die a painful death.
The calci sand if ingested clumps together & doesn't dissolve. Try wetting some & you should see it clump together.
Even if the geckos dont eat the sand, if any is swallowed & allowed to build up over time then eventually the geckos will suffer from impaction problems.
Calci sand is one of the worst 'sands' to use even childrens play sand would be better but again only for adults or geckos over 12 months old.
Sand is not their natural substrate in the wild anyway, it's just assumed that because they're a desert gecko that they live in/on sand.
take a look at this link below;
http://hubpages.com/hub/Natural-Habitat-of-the-Leopard-Gecko
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Originally posted by moneymaker
http://hubpages.com/hub/Impaction
http://www.petzoo.co.uk/images/impaction.jpg
http://www.petzoo.co.uk/extra_info_pages.php?pages_id=29
http://www.myoops.org/twocw/tufts/courses/5/content/D215709/C38926.jpg
http://www.drgecko.com/obsimpact.htm
Some of these images can be disturbing, but the 3rd link is particularly useful. |
 
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