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| herriotfan |
Posted - 24/08/2013 : 19:18:44
I've got a clutch of hatchling cornsnakes that are very defensive and aggressive.
They were incubated in a home-made incubator and went through the heatwave we endured.
I found it very difficult to keep the temps stable and the temperature went high (up to 33 degrees) quite a lot.
When they hatched they were all 5gs and all very nippy.
All, but two, are feeding ok but I'm very concerned about their temperament.
I've tried very hard to 'tame' them down a bit but despite my efforts they still mean business and draw blood every time they bite.
I'm not new to snakes and have never had a clutch like this before.
The first clutch from the pairing were all very calm and gentle.
I've got a feeling the heat has had a negative effect on these poor little guys.
What's your opinion please?
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| DeniseACH |
Posted - 29/09/2013 : 19:30:33
This is my first year breeding but I found that the Amels and Snows were nippy sweeties compared to the others. I had a few die for no apparent reason too. Seem to be eating ok, pooing, shedding then check on them the next day and would be dead :( I've still got a snow motley who as soon as I open the tub he's straight into defensive post and starts striking at me lol |
| herriotfan |
Posted - 29/09/2013 : 18:58:55
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Originally posted by DeniseACH
Bit of a strange question but is the clutch either Snows or Amels??
Parents are Amel & Normal.
Hatchies are a mix of normal, amel, snow, anery.
This is the second clutch from one locking session.
First clutch were all calm.
I've tried everything with the little dears and nothing seems to settle them.
A couple of them have died during their second shed for no apparent reason so I'm wondering if there is an issue with them that I just can't explain? |
| DeniseACH |
Posted - 29/09/2013 : 16:37:11
Bit of a strange question but is the clutch either Snows or Amels?? |
| lupi lou |
Posted - 31/08/2013 : 22:14:46
Hope they do calm down for you, i have nothing constructive to add, may be they all have 666 hidden on their scales! The temp theory is an interesting one |
| Razee |
Posted - 25/08/2013 : 17:28:45
It was Corn and Rat Snakes, a complete guide to Pantherophis, by Philip Purser, just found it ( and nearly got buried in plastic boxes :-) ) |
| BoJangles |
Posted - 25/08/2013 : 15:15:05
I have read that higher temp can effect hatchlings temperament in one of the books I have I think it's called corn and rat snakes. But I'm new to keeping corns and have no experience of breeding hope they calm down for you |
| Razee |
Posted - 25/08/2013 : 14:39:34
It was definitely a book, or a reptile mag...I can't get to my books now, all packed as re doing the house. Shame, as it's still bugging me. Maybe your temps were just that one tiny bit too high. I think the article was saying about the high temperature, babies hatching sooner, but being aggressive and smaller. Lower temps produced bigger and calmer hatchlings. But can't remember much more... will try to look in the various boxes, if I can get to them, but can't guarantee I'll find it.
Maybe they'll grow out of it , gradually? |
| Moppet |
Posted - 25/08/2013 : 11:03:33
One of mine is crazy too. #8 has such an attitude, he draws blood regularly and even attacks the tub if you try to open it. I think it's just a fear response and that he'll calm down eventually. I hope... |
| herriotfan |
Posted - 25/08/2013 : 10:12:13
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Originally posted by Midge
mine are very nippy too, they're just going into first shed so hopefully should calm down after that ...hopefully!!!
Mine have shed and are feeding ok. It's just the temperament. I've never known hatchies like it. I'm really worried about them.  |
| Midge |
Posted - 25/08/2013 : 09:27:56
mine are very nippy too, they're just going into first shed so hopefully should calm down after that ...hopefully!!! |
| herriotfan |
Posted - 25/08/2013 : 08:40:26
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Originally posted by SilverWings
quote:
Originally posted by Razee
Ah, I really wish I could remember where I read this - but I remember reading about corn hatchlings, incubated at higher temperature ( 29-30 C ) being bitey and more prone to being aggressive .
That's quite interesting, mine were incubated at around that temperature, and most are as sweet as could be. No idea what's up with yours herriotfan, how old are they now?
They hatched at the beginning of the month.
I've had nippy hatchlings before but none like these. There is something about these ones. I just can't put my finger on it? |
| mjpeters |
Posted - 24/08/2013 : 23:23:09
oh poor you a bunch of biters well,I still think that corns mellow as they mature-so Hopefully yours will get better in time? |
| Moppet |
Posted - 24/08/2013 : 22:37:42
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Originally posted by Razee
Ah, I really wish I could remember where I read this - but I remember reading about corn hatchlings, incubated at higher temperature ( 29-30 C ) being bitey and more prone to being aggressive . If incubated at lower temps, around 26 -27 C, they were fine. Interesting you should say that. It will bug me now,as to where I read it....
I remember reading that too but like you, I don't have a clue where... |
| marc_sg |
Posted - 24/08/2013 : 21:37:15
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Originally posted by Razee
Ah, I really wish I could remember where I read this - but I remember reading about corn hatchlings, incubated at higher temperature ( 29-30 C ) being bitey and more prone to being aggressive . If incubated at lower temps, around 26 -27 C, they were fine. Interesting you should say that. It will bug me now,as to where I read it....
U may have read that on one of my threads. I had a clutch that came out all female. I asked if it was because of the high temp fluctuations and I was told about the temperment changing. I cant figure out how I didnt get a single male but ive been told temps can play with tbe outcome |
| SilverWings |
Posted - 24/08/2013 : 21:18:52
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Originally posted by Razee
Ah, I really wish I could remember where I read this - but I remember reading about corn hatchlings, incubated at higher temperature ( 29-30 C ) being bitey and more prone to being aggressive .
That's quite interesting, mine were incubated at around that temperature, and most are as sweet as could be. No idea what's up with yours herriotfan, how old are they now? |
| Razee |
Posted - 24/08/2013 : 20:27:57
Ah, I really wish I could remember where I read this - but I remember reading about corn hatchlings, incubated at higher temperature ( 29-30 C ) being bitey and more prone to being aggressive . If incubated at lower temps, around 26 -27 C, they were fine. Interesting you should say that. It will bug me now,as to where I read it.... |
| ScaryVonHayleystine |
Posted - 24/08/2013 : 19:42:42
i wouldnt want to pin point a reason as there is no way of really knowing sadly. It could just be one of those things that you got a bad tempered lot.
Thats just my thoughts though. |
