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| Welshlamb |
Posted - 23/09/2012 : 09:50:34
Been puzzling and puzzling myself, on two occassions I have tried feeding George in his new viv. He never seems to take the pinky.
Started thinking he was going to be a problem feeder, so tried putting him in the tub. He took the Pinkie straight away.
Should I move him back into the viv or leave him in a tub for 48 hours (bearing in mind 10 days ago he regurged)
Thanks for help |
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| Welshlamb |
Posted - 17/10/2012 : 23:28:03
I think it's because most breeders start them off in small rubs and they grow a custom to feeding this way. I think there's a lot of positive factors to feeding in rubs too.
For example, your snake may ingest aspen shavings which could get lodged in his mouth leading to some visits to the vet. Also I think it's much easier as the space in rubs are usually smaller and compact leaving snakes feeling much safer (I'm guessing whilst they eat they are most vulnerable to predators). I have found that my snake prefers to eat in a rub and I think that if I fed inside viv this may start behaviours, as when I go to handle he may relate me opening viv to a meal time. Plus my snake simply regurgitates or ignores food whilst inside the viv. I think we are both happy with feeding time in rubs, in a dark place.
I think every snake is different and they can learn quickly |
| Thorne Walker |
Posted - 17/10/2012 : 17:15:56
I feed Kitty is a Deli cup.
My technique is to put the fuzzies in, put Kitty in, then pop the lid (with air holes) on and put the whole thing back into his viv...
After about 15 min I just pop the lid off and let him do what he will... Sometimes he vacates, sometimes he hangs out for a day.
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| Jayclk |
Posted - 17/10/2012 : 15:15:40
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Originally posted by coxymk2
Its mainly done to avoid confusion for the snake so that when you put your hand in his viv he doesn't automaticly associate it with food and trys to eat your fingers lol
ah good point didnt think of that lol |
| Lozzy |
Posted - 17/10/2012 : 12:44:35
quote:
Originally posted by Jayclk
Hi sorry new to snake keeping why do people feed the snake in rubs ? Is it just for snake confidence ?
Mainly to stop ingestion of substrate  |
| coxymk2 |
Posted - 17/10/2012 : 12:44:03
Its mainly done to avoid confusion for the snake so that when you put your hand in his viv he doesn't automaticly associate it with food and trys to eat your fingers lol |
| Jayclk |
Posted - 17/10/2012 : 11:44:35
Hi sorry new to snake keeping why do people feed the snake in rubs ? Is it just for snake confidence ? |
| Welshlamb |
Posted - 25/09/2012 : 11:42:32
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Originally posted by herriotfan
Welshlamb, some snakes really can't cope with the space in a viv to start with but as long as yours is happy, and you've made sure he has lots of places to hide, then a viv is ok.
Thanks for the help. Well I'm chuffed to pieces today no regurge since his feed and the little fella has been spending time relaxing on his rope. I'm sure he's getting more confident in his surroundings.
Thank you all for the reassurance and help
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| herriotfan |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 20:58:18
Welshlamb, some snakes really can't cope with the space in a viv to start with but as long as yours is happy, and you've made sure he has lots of places to hide, then a viv is ok. |
| herriotfan |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 20:54:30
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Originally posted by scorpyshake
quote:
Originally posted by herriotfan
At least now you know he'll feed if you put him in a tub!
As long as the mouse has gone down to his med body area you can carefully lift him back into his viv. Then leave him 48 hours to digest his meal before handling at all.
Glad he ate for you...
That's something that has always confused me lol, handling after feeding...as I'm a newish snake keeper, I've always put mine back into the rub to feed after handling, so to briefly pick up after feeding to place back into rub is ok ? that may make life a bit easier :)
It's fine just to carefully lift a snake back to it's viv after feeding. Then leave for 48 hours. I know it can be confusing....I had to ask for clarity with my first snake!
If you're not sure about anything please ask. |
| Welshlamb |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 17:37:02
quote:
Originally posted by scorpyshake
quote:
Originally posted by Welshlamb
He is approx a foot long or a little bit more (have not yet taken exact measurements, as do not want to stress him). The viv is 24"x24". You are probably thinking he is to small for the viv.
Only problem was when he was in the tub he was constantly trying to push his way out, so I thought I'd let him explore
The viv see what happens.
He settled down well (i think), although first time feeding he regurgitated in his viv. This time I left the pinkie on tissue but he just stayed on his rope and spent time under his mat. As soon as he went into the tub he took the pinkie (maybe he was to small to realise the pinkie was there? Or the space is to big and there's to many distractions?)
Would be interesting though to see what you think?
Some may thing the viv is too big for your snake ? but I can see where your coming from, I had a month old baby in a rub that someone seemed to think was too big, however both of the babies were very happy with the extra space, I think its all down to the snake at the end of the day, mine were very confident and happy, they loved exploring loads in their rubs, but I did provide plenty of hides of fake plants too.
As your snake is only about a foot long, please make sure that they cannot squeeze through the gap between the glass doors, I only read yesterday on a fb group of someone losing 2 young snakes that were co-habitating in a viv, That is the reason I still have mine in rubs at the moment, although they are due for an upgrade soon :)
Thanks for the reassurance. I have put a a4 spine cut to size in the gap to prevent escapes. No problem so far, touch wood. |
| scorpyshake |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 10:06:04
quote:
Originally posted by Welshlamb
He is approx a foot long or a little bit more (have not yet taken exact measurements, as do not want to stress him). The viv is 24"x24". You are probably thinking he is to small for the viv.
Only problem was when he was in the tub he was constantly trying to push his way out, so I thought I'd let him explore
The viv see what happens.
He settled down well (i think), although first time feeding he regurgitated in his viv. This time I left the pinkie on tissue but he just stayed on his rope and spent time under his mat. As soon as he went into the tub he took the pinkie (maybe he was to small to realise the pinkie was there? Or the space is to big and there's to many distractions?)
Would be interesting though to see what you think?
Some may thing the viv is too big for your snake ? but I can see where your coming from, I had a month old baby in a rub that someone seemed to think was too big, however both of the babies were very happy with the extra space, I think its all down to the snake at the end of the day, mine were very confident and happy, they loved exploring loads in their rubs, but I did provide plenty of hides of fake plants too.
As your snake is only about a foot long, please make sure that they cannot squeeze through the gap between the glass doors, I only read yesterday on a fb group of someone losing 2 young snakes that were co-habitating in a viv, That is the reason I still have mine in rubs at the moment, although they are due for an upgrade soon :) |
| scorpyshake |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 09:57:28
quote:
Originally posted by herriotfan
At least now you know he'll feed if you put him in a tub!
As long as the mouse has gone down to his med body area you can carefully lift him back into his viv. Then leave him 48 hours to digest his meal before handling at all.
Glad he ate for you...
That's something that has always confused me lol, handling after feeding...as I'm a newish snake keeper, I've always put mine back into the rub to feed after handling, so to briefly pick up after feeding to place back into rub is ok ? that may make life a bit easier :) |
| Welshlamb |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 08:39:33
He is approx a foot long or a little bit more (have not yet taken exact measurements, as do not want to stress him). The viv is 24"x24". You are probably thinking he is to small for the viv.
Only problem was when he was in the tub he was constantly trying to push his way out, so I thought I'd let him explore
The viv see what happens.
He settled down well (i think), although first time feeding he regurgitated in his viv. This time I left the pinkie on tissue but he just stayed on his rope and spent time under his mat. As soon as he went into the tub he took the pinkie (maybe he was to small to realise the pinkie was there? Or the space is to big and there's to many distractions?)
Would be interesting though to see what you think? |
| Georgina |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 07:40:06
Yup I wouldn't feed double this feed or next as he had a regurge. Out of interest how big is george and how big is his viv? |
| naughtyboy |
Posted - 24/09/2012 : 07:27:30
apart from my ratsnake my 7 others eat in tubs my 4 corns wont eat in their vivs. |
| smart bunny |
Posted - 23/09/2012 : 19:22:54
If he's had a regurge definitely don't give 2 pinks at a time until he's kept 1 down for a couple of feeds.
Good news that he fed for you - I'm guessing his previous owner must have tub fed rather than viv fed so that is what he's used to? |
| herriotfan |
Posted - 23/09/2012 : 17:21:51
If you've already moved him back to his viv after the first pinkie I would just leave him. Don't bother with a second pinkie. He'll be fine until he's due for his next feed. |
| Moppet |
Posted - 23/09/2012 : 16:30:30
I feed my snakes in a tub and move them back into the vivs when they've got the mouse down. No problems so far. At least George will eat in a tub |
| Auld Baldy |
Posted - 23/09/2012 : 12:51:53
I feed all my snakes in a tub, even the 6' python.  |
| Simmy_82 |
Posted - 23/09/2012 : 11:03:10
Yeah sounds good. I double fed pinkies until I ran out of pinkies, think I had six left when they started leaving no lump. So fed her for three weeks in double pinks til I bought some fuzzies. |
