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| PurpIeMonkey |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 11:12:49
can I use one stat to control my bulb and mat?? like plug a extension lead into the stat and have my mat and bulb on the extension?? |
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| PurpIeMonkey |
Posted - 25/02/2012 : 02:16:04
Great, lol so my dimming stat wont do sod all with my matt lol I'll just buy a matt stat wen I can afford he'll he to make do till then |
| Okeetee Mick |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 18:44:39
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Originally posted by Dancross0
Here we go.....
Brilliant, lmao  |
| lotabob |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 18:33:03
I am going to give a bit of info about stats and what they can and cant be used on. I use habistat so I'l use them for examples.
MAT-STAT, is rated upto 100 watts and is a basic on/off stat, it gets too hot it switches off, too cold, switches on. A very good, simple and cheap option for running a heat mat. (I tried one on a bulb and it blew the bulb in 20 minutes).
TEMPERATURE STAT, can power any type of heating but is either on or off so its not great for light emitting bulbs.
PULSE STAT, Pulses (switches on and off very fast) the flow of electricity to maintain a very accurate temperature. Not suitable for light emitting bulbs as it causes them to flash like a 1980's disco.
DIMMING STAT, Suitable for bulb heating systems, both ceramic and light emitting, will reduce the amount of power to the heat source maintaining a very accurate temperature. Not always suitable for small heat mats as Habistat dimmer stat has a minimum load of 40 Watts (the microclimate doesn't).
I dont like the magic eye function, it reacts to light to drop the temperature, forget to open the curtains and it wont get daytime warm, thunder storm comes along and it gets dark, it goes cold, sitting watching the super bowl with the lights on and it wont drop the temperature. Bit pointless in my opinion as heat sources that don't emit light don't need to be turned off or down over night, air temp and cool side temp will drop naturally at night anyway. |
| Dancross0 |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 17:47:48
Here we go..... |
| Okeetee Mick |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 17:20:10
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Originally posted by danny
A stat Is a stat really they all do the same thing, the only imporatant thing is the wattage which that is more than enough so just give it a go :)
Danny
Is that why we have normal mat stats, pulse stats and dimming stats plus others.
Put a pulse stat on a bulb and see the bulb flicker on and off and the poor snakes will think there out clubbing. |
| Kehhlyr |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 16:01:35
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Originally posted by danny
............just swap the bulb for a normal house spot light, this won't produce as much heat infact no where near so it can be on all the time ......
ALL bulbs will produce heat when left on all the time, even the energy saving bulbs will produce a heat that could burn a snake.
A 'normal house spot light' will get high temps too, unless you're referring to LED bulbs, in which case they wont.
Even the little 12v dichroic reflector ones will give off a phenomenal amount of heat.
As it stands, a stat is crucial to all lights, aside from non-dimmables and led bulbs.
I've had a 2500 watt bulb stat'd for the giggle in the past and even the housing got hotter than the bulb. |
| Sta~ple |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 14:52:05
No not all stats are the same! Bulb stats dim, mat stats go on and off in general and pulses can be used with anything. Unless your mat is a stupid size or you have multiple mats it won't work since the minimum wattage it needs is 40w.
I'd just leave that stat on the bulb and use the bulb then either decide if you want to heat with a mat and therefore buy another stat and maybe sell the bulb and simmer stat or just keep it on a bulb. Yes your bulb if used as a heating device does need a stat and it also needs a bulb guard. |
| danny |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 14:05:31
Yes a stat would be best for a bulb as it would get much hotter than the mat would. You could either leave it of untill you get a stat. or just swap the bulb for a normal house spot light, this won't produce as much heat infact no where near so it can be on all the time just to provide some light which they dont need but looks prettier for us to the eye :)
Danny |
| PurpIeMonkey |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 14:00:27
cool I'll use the stat on the matt then, does a 100w bulb need a stat on it or is it ok to run the bulb with out one??
p.s. thanks for the help |
| danny |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 13:52:55
A stat Is a stat really they all do the same thing, the only imporatant thing is the wattage which that is more than enough so just give it a go :)
Danny |
| PurpIeMonkey |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 13:45:23
i have this stat for bulb (top one) would it be ok for the matt
http://www.eurorep.net/habistat/dimming.htm |
| danny |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 13:18:49
Would still make more sense to just put that stat on the mat! surely rather than only using the bulb exspecially if it's usually located around the mat area itself ? then it's not thinking huh where's my digesting place gone and then having to be out in the open to bask and be exposed to heat. Bdrogons don't feel heat from beneath them very well at all. I'd pick mat on stat over bulb on a stat then get a stat for the bulb but that's just my opinion :)
Don't you usally recommend to have a mat on a stat rather than a bulb infact thought that was a known fact that you would usally advice ?
All the best
Danny
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| lotabob |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 13:09:32
All reptiles can feel heat if its beneath them, and to the sides too, heat is heat. A bulb absolutely IS enough to heat a whole vivarium (even my 6X2 foot viv is heated by bulb). edit to add corn snakes dont really bask, the bulb heats the floor and surrounding decor and they will go to that area and warm themselves
The bulb will be fine during the day and in the average house overnight temps will be grand too with the light off. Corns are tough cookies and can drop down to about 18oC and still stay active. I think its the right thing to do to switch off the mat, it may be true that its been that way for years but what if the elderly mat was to fail, its a small risk but its a small and avoidable one. For a long time I used a bulb through the day, mat at night setup for my corn, now I just use a ceramic bulb which does all the jobs required in one go. But how I do it is one way of many to do things the important thing is that all heat sources are adequately controlled and monitored. |
| danny |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 12:58:47
Bulbs are used more as a basking light from above for lizards etc. depends on your snakes behaveier where is it usually located does it bask out on a rock as such or stay curled up somewhere roaming around the floor ? |
| danny |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 12:55:34
It's fine as it is to be honest, I assume the previous keeper had no stat on the mat either if it came as it is ? It really would be best not to just turn the
Mat off as snakes are one of the few reptiles that can feel heat from beneath them hence why they hang around them
A lot. A bulb really isn't enough by its self to heat he whole tank. If you are that worried don't use the light and put that stat on the
MAt, untill you get another. Personally I'd leave it as it is untill you get one if you do, bare in mind it's lived most of its life with the set up you got so u don't all of a sudden wana start fiddling with anything don't worry :)
Danny |
| Georgina |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 12:55:20
Snakey will be fine with no mat for a coule of days, surrey pets online do a mat stat for 23 pounds including delivery x |
| PurpIeMonkey |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 12:53:40
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Originally posted by danny
If you have had it running for a year why are you now suddenly turning it of ? A mat is far more sufficient than a bulb. It's best stated yes but if you have had it fine for this Long why not leave it on till the weekend then get one if needs be then it won't be such a change for him/her ?
All the best
Danny
cus ive seen the pics of snakes burning there bellys on unstated matts and dont want that to happen. I've got a 100w exo terra daylight basking spot light is that not enough till i can afford a matt stat?? |
| PurpIeMonkey |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 12:49:33
yeah i have a stat for my heat bulb (which im starting to think was a waste of money) only reason ive not though of using it is bulb and matt stats look different and then there is no stat on the bulb |
| PurpIeMonkey |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 12:46:32
I just turn the heat light on and off via the stat wen i get up in morning and go to bed at night |
| smart bunny |
Posted - 24/02/2012 : 12:45:30
So you have a stat for your light? Would it be suitable for the mat or not (I think the light ones are different but I'm not sure)? If it is suitable you could just switch it to the mat if you wanted. |
