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sarahw Posted - 10/10/2010 : 17:33:48
right now i know how big and what my sons snake now weighs im starting to think hes not been getting enough food
he is 3 foot 3inches weighs 215g and is about 2 years old
he has been fed on fluffs, i gave him his first one on friday which he grabbed very quickly and it was gone quickly and i looked for a bulge but must admit dont think there was one
i weighed the frozen mouse and it was 12g so def seems to be a fluff it is 1.5 inch in length not including the tail
i have not yet meauresed the thickest part of sonic so will do that tomorrow
would he be ready for the next size up which im pretty sure is a small mouse?
or would it best to feed 2 fluffs for a while
thanks
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sarahw Posted - 12/10/2010 : 09:51:03
yeah thats what im gonna do, give him the last 2 mice he has and then see the sizes at the shop then get him enough for him to have 2 of for his next few feeds then go up to the next size, thanks
Kellog Posted - 12/10/2010 : 05:28:47
I am with Herriotfan on this! Dont worry about what they are called as it just confuses you !! As long as you are using the same supplier then you can just go up in size as they do when necessary.

What you must be careful of it moving him up too quickly in size....his stomach needs to be prepared for the larger prey item, which it is why it is a good idea to give him 2 of 'whatever they are' for a few feeds and then move up to the next size. All you have to be careful of is that when you move him up his 'dinner's' girth is not bigger than 1.5 times the girth of Sonic's widest part....but I dont think that will be a problem!

Silvesta was 2 medium mice once a week (supposedly) when I got him and he was about Sonic's age, weight and length. I didnt trust the owner and he was certainly skinny, which is why I say supposedly. I continued with that and he put on weight nicely, moving up to large mice when he was ready.

Obviously Sonic cant jump straight from where he is to medium mice! Just move him up slowly over time....it is much better to do it that way than try and power feed him.

Sonic looks lovely and healthy so I dont think you have too much to worry about....just follow your common sense as to what to do regarding his food and he will be fine .

xxx
Sta~ple Posted - 11/10/2010 : 17:27:18
Fluffs don't weight 12g or mine certainly don't. That's more hopper/small mouse size I would have thought? And fluffs and fuzzies are the same thing in a lot places. If in doubt, ask if you can take a good look at the food.
Taz Devil Posted - 11/10/2010 : 09:54:35
Sid is 3 years old and has just hit the 3 foot mark. She seems ok with 1 medium mouse every 7 days, she won't take a second feed or go onto a larger mouse, not 100% sure but I think she was somewhere in the region of 257g the last time I weighed her, I'll have to look it up when I get home as I keep a full record of all feeds, weights, lengths and sheds, and she was 92cm long (about 3 foot).

So for 2 years old I'd say sonic is doing just fine. If you keep a detailed log of how he's doing then you will soon notice if he's loosing any weight.
sarahw Posted - 11/10/2010 : 09:42:15
thats fine, think im ok with the sizes, the local supplier to me id the same place where the previous owner got the food from so will be ok
thanks
herriotfan Posted - 11/10/2010 : 03:44:46
Don't worry about what the different sizes are called at this point. If you go to the same supplier each time just feed two of the same size for a couple of feeds and if your snake doesn't regurge then move up to the next size your supplier does.
The reason I say this is because different suppliers call the mice different names, as you can tell from the replies you've got here...i.e differing names for the same size mouse!
Hope I haven't confused you even more!


Edit to add PM me if you need this clarifying
Gaz_1989 Posted - 11/10/2010 : 00:43:28
No worries.

That's a nice looking snake you got by the way.

I purchased a 8 week old anery last month, but looking at pics on here I am beginning to think he is a normal/Carolina.

I will put pics up tomorrow for confirmation.

Gaz


sarahw Posted - 11/10/2010 : 00:18:24
thats the list i have wrote down
thanks again
im not stresing no more
was getting quite worried i wouldnt be able to sort it before friday
Gaz_1989 Posted - 11/10/2010 : 00:04:59
No worries. I'm glad I can help. I'm still pretty new to the reptile world, only got my first snake 12 months ago. But learnt alot in a short space.

Different people call mouse sizes different things, this is what I call them...

Pinkies
Fuzzies
Fluffs (also hoppers/crawlers)
Small
Medium
Large
Jumbo

Gaz
sarahw Posted - 10/10/2010 : 23:54:17
thas great just the answer i was looking for, from what i had read i thought that was the right order and weight but there is alot of conflicting info plus some places call em different names and they vary in size.
the conformation that he is on fluffs is what i needed to know now i know what size to go up to, hes due for a feed friday so will give him his remaining 2 fluffs so hopefully all goes well, which i think it will do as last fri he seemed to eat it so quick so must be getting hungrier bless him
thank you :-)
Gaz_1989 Posted - 10/10/2010 : 23:48:53
If what you are feeding is 12g then it's a fluff.

Smaller than fluff is fuzzy.

Larger than fluff is small mouse.

If I was you then I would offer two of what he's on now for a few feeds, then move up to say a 15g small mouse. Then stay on them for few months.

But this is just my opinion and how I do things.

sarahw Posted - 10/10/2010 : 23:36:10
hi gaz yeah that has helped the fact that yours weighs less than sonic confirms he is on the wrong sized mouse.
i think i may pop along to my local shop and see what sizes there mice are to see if they can confirm what size mice i currently have, i have 2 of the size that hes been having so could get a rough idea i think
so if hes on fuzzies then is the next size up small?
i was told that the fuzzies are the same size as the fluffs as they are just different names for them
Gaz_1989 Posted - 10/10/2010 : 23:25:31
Your snake is a very similar size to my oldest snake.

Stella is 3' 6" approx and 200g.

She has just gone onto large mice these last couple of weeks. Before that she had 5 feeds of 2 x Small mice.

She is now on 1 large mouse every 7 days, weighing about 20g per mouse.

Hope this helps

Gaz

sarahw Posted - 10/10/2010 : 21:33:55
done :-)
gmac Posted - 10/10/2010 : 21:21:35
if your piccy is on photobucket you can resize the image, just select edit and resize pick the size that is suitable and save.
sarahw Posted - 10/10/2010 : 21:14:54
hi tehbunneh
im starting to think maybe its fuzzies hes on then if you think its a different name for them,
they are not very big just under 2" and they have their eyes closed
shall i try him with 2 of what hes on now for a few more feeds then go up to either hopper or small?
sarahw Posted - 10/10/2010 : 21:04:40
hi gmac vcan you tell me how and i will thanks
gmac Posted - 10/10/2010 : 19:59:01

Sarahw, can you downsize your sig please it is massive, and it makes me have to scroll to the right
tehbunneh Posted - 10/10/2010 : 19:58:52
Meant to add, either way, it looks like you're doing fine with them! He looks healthy and seems a good size!
tehbunneh Posted - 10/10/2010 : 19:58:18
From what I've seen there are plenty of different names for all of the different sizes, though fluff is a new one to me in relation to hoppers! Fluff is usually another name for fuzzies, as far as I've experienced anyway, lol! The site Stapey has provided is good for getting to know what the most common names are, as well as the most common size/weights of them! As long as the mouse is what you would consider sub-adult in size/look, then it is probably hoppers you are feeding, and you could possibly move up to adults of the small or medium size ^^

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