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| gmac |
Posted - 09/01/2011 : 23:48:30
Why must a thermostat be used?
Looking on our sister site earlier I came across a not so nice photo of a royal, you will see from the photo what the dangers of not using a stat can cause.
The damage to this snake was caused by being kept in housing without a thermostat and the burns are as bad as they look. That can happen to any snake should you choose to heat a snake using a mat without using a thermostat.
The snake now has a new owner, after it was bought by one of the original owners friends and is doing well.
This image alone is more than enough encouragement to make sure you have a stat.
Thanks to AddicksGlenn on TRP for letting me use this photo
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| Kellog |
Posted - 30/04/2013 : 07:29:19
Unfortunately you get so much conflicting advice from different people....and a lot of it is wrong advice and even comes from so-called specialists, like vets, breeders and people in reptile shops  . I use the word 'wrong', but there isn't any right or wrong really, it's down to what you think is best....but with a lot of things, like this, the majority agree and can't understand any other view.
As Dancross said, a heatmat under the wooden viv would have to work so much harder to reach the right heat within the viv, it's much more likely to malfunction or cause a problem. And as for not using a thermostat....the heatmat will only heat to the temperature you programme the thermostat to, so unless you put it up as far as it goes what your vet has said won't happen. The important thing is to make sure the probes are secure, as Dan has said.
I'm glad you're still going to get the stat. If I'm told something by as so-called 'expert', I always check it out on here....and I'm glad you are doing the same  .
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| andria2013 |
Posted - 29/04/2013 : 21:43:52
well thats wat I thought, but yh thats wat the vet said ,. and she keeps snakes herself . im getn 1 anyway s its oki . |
| Dancross0 |
Posted - 29/04/2013 : 15:57:46
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Originally posted by andria2013
I was just at myvets today and the vet told me better not to use a thermostat but to get heatmats that i could use under the viv and not inside , due to when it switches heatat bk on its puts it on full power so more likely to burn snake more . i got Robin n Albion 2 weeks ago and no digital thermometers no thermostat nothing . so not sure wat to do .
Your vet is a bit strange. A mat under a wooden viv would have to work at full capacity to get heat into the viv, what with wood being quite good at insulating...
A stat cuts the power to a mat when it reaches the temp it has been set to, and applies power when the temp drops, so unless the probe is moved off the mat, it will keep it around the desired temp.
TL;DR. Get a stat. |
| andria2013 |
Posted - 29/04/2013 : 13:30:28
I was just at myvets today and the vet told me better not to use a thermostat but to get heatmats that i could use under the viv and not inside , due to when it switches heatat bk on its puts it on full power so more likely to burn snake more . i got Robin n Albion 2 weeks ago and no digital thermometers no thermostat nothing . so not sure wat to do . |
| Sta~ple |
Posted - 23/07/2012 : 19:41:53
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Originally posted by scorpyshake
STICKY this thread, even as a novice myself, I dont understand some people, are they really that stupid ? it doesn't hurt to read up about things or ask questions before investing in a pet, crikey, that poor snake, I really couldn't live with the guilt of neglecting anything, I hope they dont have children either, because in my eyes, if you can neglect an animal then they could neglect a child too, so sad, I hope the snake is ok now and has a loving home, poor thing
You would be surprised. Not everyone is stupid, they believe what there petshop tells them and put trust into people they think are experts, I did. People even faced with these pictures sometimes refuse to get a stat. |
| oakleyman18 |
Posted - 13/07/2012 : 09:14:44
It is stickied, has been just about since its creation! Hence why it's at the top. |
| scorpyshake |
Posted - 13/07/2012 : 08:48:43
STICKY this thread, even as a novice myself, I dont understand some people, are they really that stupid ? it doesn't hurt to read up about things or ask questions before investing in a pet, crikey, that poor snake, I really couldn't live with the guilt of neglecting anything, I hope they dont have children either, because in my eyes, if you can neglect an animal then they could neglect a child too, so sad, I hope the snake is ok now and has a loving home, poor thing |
| Scottishlewis |
Posted - 12/07/2012 : 21:54:43
Thats terrible.. thank goodness I use a stat.. if your going to have an exotic pet then you should be prepared to spend the money on getting the proper requirements! |
| kdlang |
Posted - 10/09/2011 : 14:26:01
A thermostat is a little box with a dial on it which you use you set the required temperature. It has 3 cables running from it, one is a power cable, one is a cable with a socket on the end and one has a probe on the end. You thread the probe through a hole in the viv and place it on top of the heatmat. you plug your heatmat into the socket and then plug the stat into your mains. the heatmat will heat to the temperature set and then the thermostat will turn the heatmat off until it drops a couple of degrees and then it will swtich on again. That way it regulates the temperature of the heatmat so that it can't overheat. |
| kerry84 |
Posted - 10/09/2011 : 02:38:57
aww poor thing see i was told by several driffrent people i didnt even need a heat mat???? but i was like nooo they need one i dont have a thermostat can any one tell me how they work as im soooooooooooo confused reading so many driffrent things about them
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| Tallscientist |
Posted - 02/08/2011 : 15:49:19
It was the same for me. The guy at the reptile shop basically said to me "You don't need a stat in this country". Like it doesn't get warm enough to warrant one! :( |
| Vixyg |
Posted - 02/08/2011 : 13:36:15
i got my stats on ebay for £20 and free postage and they arrived next day both times i ordered them. they are microclimate ministat 100 and work very well. |
| awlred |
Posted - 02/08/2011 : 11:09:37
I got mine from Internet Reptile. £20.99 + £2.40 shipping got it within 48 hours and that's more to do with a naff postal service on my end.
Best coupled up with a digital thermometer probe (which I got for £3.50 off eBay) so that you know you're set up well.
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| Simmy_82 |
Posted - 02/08/2011 : 11:02:36
Habistat Mat Stat - Around £20 ish give or take. |
| ScalySituation |
Posted - 02/08/2011 : 10:57:20
Can you guys tell me what's the cheapest reliable thermostat and where to buy from? |
| Cornsnakeluver127 |
Posted - 10/06/2011 : 19:02:35
OMG thats awful!!! i would never dream of not using a thermostat luckly my reptile store is brilliant they gave me everything let me handle and see all there corn snakes (includin the adults even when i came for a baby!) but i knew anyway cause of book and the internet! |
| uma and bill |
Posted - 08/04/2011 : 11:41:26
I also agree with this, when we got our uma she was setup with everything a corn needs and we were given a proper demonstration of how to set her tank up and given tons of good advice. If you go to a reptile shop and they don't offer you a stat then i would leave, if they're getting something as basic as that wrong then just imagine what else they might be getting wrong :-( |
| Mole |
Posted - 04/03/2011 : 22:38:52
Agree with you all and CM especially, we bought our first snake in nov, my son (7yrs) wanted one. I did loads of research and found a great reptile supplier who supplied complete kit for Striker from baby to full grown, including mat, stat and therm, they told me that they did it to secure the snakes welfare cause loads of people keep their snakes in too small enclosures as they dont upgrade when they grow. He also set up the viv and faun for us and ran it up to make sure they were correct for the snake. We came away really happy with our temps and monitoring things inplace |
| CentricMalteser |
Posted - 22/02/2011 : 02:07:17
When my mate got his baby corn - anerythristic motley, about 5 months old and 1ft 3ins, the guy told him a plastic viv is fine, and to stick the heat mat INSIDE at the bottom with substrate on it,
no advice on a heat mat or anything
anyway after few days, i touched the bottom, and the plastic had deformed from the heat and the heat mat was over heating to the point of hotter than boiling water
i think they should make it compulsory
and they should also make people buy ALL the equipment before giving them the animal, OR make the persons bring in evidence, such as pcitures or the viv itself to show the setup
i think by doing this they could cut down at least 25% of animal cruelty and neglect |
| Kazerella |
Posted - 12/01/2011 : 12:45:19
Great post Gmac  |
