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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/01/2011 :  23:48:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why must a thermostat be used?

Looking on our sister site earlier I came across a not so nice photo of a royal, you will see from the photo what the dangers of not using a stat can cause.



The damage to this snake was caused by being kept in housing without a thermostat and the burns are as bad as they look. That can happen to any snake should you choose to heat a snake using a mat without using a thermostat.

The snake now has a new owner, after it was bought by one of the original owners friends and is doing well.

This image alone is more than enough encouragement to make sure you have a stat.

Thanks to AddicksGlenn on TRP for letting me use this photo






Edited by - gmac on 20/01/2011 02:00:32

lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2011 :  23:55:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I saw this too and it did make me really annoyed that for the sake of £25 (Habistat Mat-Stat) an animal has had to suffer. Just buy one, they really are worth it.

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Benji54
Hatchling

United Kingdom
449 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2011 :  00:44:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i quite agree. poor little snake. good post gmac, more people need to be made away of the necessecity to have a proper stat and heat setup.

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1.0.0 Royal "ophion"
0.1.0 Coastal Carpet Python "Serendipity"
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Invalid User
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/01/2011 :  07:16:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good post seeing as a lot of petshops (including the one where I got Nimbus) never ever mention that a thermostat should be used with heat mats!
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Newbie
Yearling

950 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2011 :  12:09:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree Louise, I wasn't told to use a stat, I've got a microclimate mat but wasn't told to stat it or use a thermomenter to monitor, poor snake, will those burns heal ok gmac? x



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EmmaJayne
Hatchling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/01/2011 :  14:41:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poor snakie :(
Does anyone else think this should be made into a sticky? People need to be made aware of this

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Benji54
Hatchling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/01/2011 :  14:46:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
itd be nice to think that it wouldnt HAVE to be but unfortunately u may be right...

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smiffy89
Hatchling

United Kingdom
342 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2011 :  16:53:34  Show Profile  Click to see smiffy89's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
stats are well cheap from certain places cheapest ive found is a microclimate100 for £15.it annoys me as i didnt know these dangers untill gmac explained it to me a while back but to think £15 could have saved this snakey from alot of pain and troubles.
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nixipixi
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
25 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2011 :  17:28:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
:O oh my god! thats awful! The place I got jynx from never said a word about stats! Its disgusting that people will happily sell you an animal without giving you the appropriate info! Thank god for the internet and specialist books else I would never have known! :(

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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/01/2011 :  19:15:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Newbie

I agree Louise, I wasn't told to use a stat, I've got a microclimate mat but wasn't told to stat it or use a thermomenter to monitor, poor snake, will those burns heal ok gmac? x



The burn is almost invisible now and only some slight markings left over.


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Newbie
Yearling

950 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2011 :  20:27:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:


The burn is almost invisible now and only some slight markings left over.



That's great thank god he's in a knowledgable home and hasn't had any lasting damage x



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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5599 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2011 :  20:33:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That really is awful to look at. The poor snake. Good to hear its recovering so well though.


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Covps2blue
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
36 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2011 :  20:42:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Think this should be a sticky, to get the message across and avoid any future snakes having the same fate

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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5853 Posts

Posted - 10/01/2011 :  21:01:39  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Poor little snake. I agree....sticky gmac please. Glad the little guy is doing ok after such a terrible ordeal.


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gmac
The Scottish Admin

United Kingdom
5319 Posts

Posted - 12/01/2011 :  12:09:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did mean to add that this photo is about a year old, will try to get photos of the burn area as it is now.

The cost of a stat as people have mentioned is a pittance in the long run as trips to the Vets will cost more than the stat just for the consult, and there is no guarantee there will be the same outcome as this one.


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Kazerella
The Corn Snake Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/01/2011 :  12:45:19  Show Profile  Visit Kazerella's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Great post Gmac



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CentricMalteser
Banned

United Kingdom
238 Posts

Posted - 22/02/2011 :  02:07:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When my mate got his baby corn - anerythristic motley, about 5 months old and 1ft 3ins, the guy told him a plastic viv is fine, and to stick the heat mat INSIDE at the bottom with substrate on it,

no advice on a heat mat or anything

anyway after few days, i touched the bottom, and the plastic had deformed from the heat and the heat mat was over heating to the point of hotter than boiling water

i think they should make it compulsory

and they should also make people buy ALL the equipment before giving them the animal, OR make the persons bring in evidence, such as pcitures or the viv itself to show the setup

i think by doing this they could cut down at least 25% of animal cruelty and neglect
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Mole
Hatchling

United Kingdom
121 Posts

Posted - 04/03/2011 :  22:38:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Agree with you all and CM especially, we bought our first snake in nov, my son (7yrs) wanted one. I did loads of research and found a great reptile supplier who supplied complete kit for Striker from baby to full grown, including mat, stat and therm, they told me that they did it to secure the snakes welfare cause loads of people keep their snakes in too small enclosures as they dont upgrade when they grow. He also set up the viv and faun for us and ran it up to make sure they were correct for the snake. We came away really happy with our temps and monitoring things inplace



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uma and bill
Hatchling

United Kingdom
152 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2011 :  11:41:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also agree with this, when we got our uma she was setup with everything a corn needs and we were given a proper demonstration of how to set her tank up and given tons of good advice. If you go to a reptile shop and they don't offer you a stat then i would leave, if they're getting something as basic as that wrong then just imagine what else they might be getting wrong :-(

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Cornsnakeluver127
Egg

United Kingdom
58 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2011 :  19:02:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OMG thats awful!!! i would never dream of not using a thermostat luckly my reptile store is brilliant they gave me everything let me handle and see all there corn snakes (includin the adults even when i came for a baby!) but i knew anyway cause of book and the internet!
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2011 :  10:57:20  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Can you guys tell me what's the cheapest reliable thermostat and where to buy from?

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