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| Azzheasman |
Posted - 28/05/2010 : 17:13:50
One of my hatchies is all kinked, I know this is from calcium defficiency but apart from that I don't know what to do I know kinked snakes have problems their whole lives and I don't wanna write the little guy off before he's had his chance. The kinking is bad and it's all the way up his body he can't even really move that well just kind of spazzes about to where he needs to be, my brother has said he will take him/her but If it's gonna cos him loads in vet bills I dunno if that's the best plan, I not I'm not in the position here to keep him either, infact I'm not keeping any of this clutch. I'm just after advise if I'm honest, I thought he would have to be put to sleep but the guys at my rep shop said he might recover I'll get pics up as soon as I can but if any one here wants him he's free and I'll deliver within reason, after the first 2 weeks obviously. :( |
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| hillzi |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 22:12:54
R.I.P In the long run you did the right thing.
Mother Nature has a habit of kicking us where it hurts sometimes, there a some that were born not to make it, so don't feel too bad, one of those unsolveable, unpreventable things..
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| Dan-sunkist |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 21:48:52
i agree with the last few posts man i would not blame your self as others have said nature can be cruel and there is a reason they lay so many eggs as the expectancy of them surviving in the wild is very low more eggs more chance at least one will survive. and by what i have read hear ou did the best for the little fellow.our tigs has a kink/bumb in her spine but it dont affect her when we bought her the guy in the shop said we could bring her back and i decided that i would rather keep her i would rather keep her and make her happy than give her back as they would more than likely get her put to sleep as they would not be able to sell her. i did want to breed from her eventually but i have ruled that out now.
as i said dont blame your self and its a shame foe the little guy he looked like a nice snake
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| Scarlett |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 19:14:08
I know I'm late on this, but I just read through everything. You did what you could Azz, and it's just the way life goes that not every one will make it out perfectly. We all have our time and methods to go, and it was just better this way for the little guy. It's sad, but it was what was needed. You did what you could Azz, and the snakey's better off for it. <3 |
| eeji |
Posted - 03/06/2010 : 18:17:04
sometimes **** happens, thats why they lay so many eggs so at least a few of them will make it in the big wide world ;) |
| Mouse |
Posted - 03/06/2010 : 08:29:36
*agrees with last two posts*
Yup, it's my first too! :D
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| Kellog |
Posted - 03/06/2010 : 05:09:49
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Originally posted by Azzheasman
......I'm pretty new at this I'm sure slot of this was down to my own inexperience
I know NOTHING about breeding Azzheasman, but just going from what I have learnt in this thread there is no way you can blame your inexperience on what happened! This being your first time breeding probably has nothing to do with the outcome and you cannot think like that. If it was then more of the clutch would have been affected, not just the one....and going by what Eeji has explained there are so many other reasons for this to happen.
No guilt about this - do you understand me  !!!!! You did everything you were supposed to do to keep this clutch safe from the point of laying to hatching....and you know that. So focus on your healthy successes rather than the one poor little baby that was born because nature made it born that way - NOT YOU!
xxx
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| Sta~ple |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 23:19:34
No it wasn't! I was one of those thing's Azzhesman! If it was down to you being inexperienced then more of them would have had that problem! I really hope your not blaming yourself :( |
| Azzheasman |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 23:16:48
I'm sure yours will be fine mouse best to wait and see what happens this was my first clutch and I'm pretty new at this I'm sure slot of this was down to my own inexperience |
| Mouse |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 19:36:09
Oh no, thats such a shame :( *starts worrying about mine now...* |
| Azzheasman |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 00:31:31
Thanks kellog :) x |
| Kellog |
Posted - 01/06/2010 : 14:53:41
At the end of the day you did what you had to do for the hatchling's sake Azzheasman....I know this may sound strange, but well done....it cant have been easy. Sta~ple is right, nature can be cruel and sometimes things happen that you just cant control or put right - so you have to do what is necessary, and you did.
I am so glad the rest are healthy and you have Milky's clutch hatching to look forward too....more than enough to keep your mind occupied!
xxx
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| Sta~ple |
Posted - 01/06/2010 : 14:25:33
Oh no T.T did they check him out before hand? Your re very unlucky for this have happened to you but nature is very cruel and as you said, the rest are fine :p hows the umbilical cord one? |
| Azzheasman |
Posted - 01/06/2010 : 12:47:22
We had the little guy PTS think that's what was best for him, not great for my first clutch but I suppose these things will happen main thing is the rest are healthy :) and milkys lots are due this coming weekend
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| eeji |
Posted - 31/05/2010 : 13:14:54
theres loads of different things that can cause it. It can be genetic and passed down from the parents (inbreeding can contribute to this, but is not the underlying cause), incorrect incubation temperatures or temperature spikes/drops, disturbance of the eggs eg. moving them too much, calcium deficiency, and probably more. |
| Sta~ple |
Posted - 31/05/2010 : 11:19:19
I've also heard kinks in the spine can be something about inbreeding but I' not sure how much of that is true. I've also hard that temperatures can effect it but surely massive fluctuations in temperature would mean that most of them would hatch out a bit deformed?
It just seems like sadly for you that nature was just being cruel that day :( there might be no reason behind it at all and that it just happened.
My hatchie with his umbilical cord was the last to hatch properly as well... he was one of the last to slit the egg and when he did with his head poking out, he sat in his egg for 3 days! Rattling and trying to strike me everytime I went on check on him! He also had a violet belly which I found very strange after he hatched for about a week.
I'm glad the other little one is though! I wouldn't have thought too much time in the egg would do anything, if they are like chicks then too much time n the egg generally means they die though lack of oxygen.
The cord should come off soon ones it goes all dry and crispy XD I've heard that this happens quite often with corns and royals. I think some people use like a damp kitchen roll and let them slither over it for it to come off but I just left my little guy with his on as I figured it would drop off itself eventually anyway although not much was attached to him ad I wasn't sure if snakes had umbilical cords then either. It eventually dropped off but I never saw it once it did, probably because it was small.
I don't think too much time in the eggs would do anything like that, too much time in the egg and they normally die through suffocation if they don't spilt the egg...
I hope the call goes well for you. |
| Azzheasman |
Posted - 31/05/2010 : 09:28:52
All of my Reading and my rep guys told me it's a calcium defficiency passed on thru the mum, how ever none of the other earlier hatching ones have any defects these two were in the eggs longest and they were at funny angles however both eggs were huge and the most healthy looking of the bunch. Also these were the last laid that developed problems but all my snakes all have reptiboost in their water ( a vitamin suppliment) with so much calcium in it I was advised not to put th powdered stuff on their mice any more, so she should have all the calcium she needs. Could it be that as these were the last out and the rest were fine she could have "run out " of calcium, also good question kellog any info I can gather is good :)
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| Kellog |
Posted - 31/05/2010 : 03:43:14
Hope you dont mind me asking this in the middle of all your worries about your babies Azzheasman, but it is on the topic.
Eeji....what causes the kinks? Does anyone know? Could it be lack of calcium, too much time in the egg, a genetic abnormality passed on by the parents or something else?
This thread just got me thinking and I wondered why......
xxx
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| Azzheasman |
Posted - 31/05/2010 : 00:36:45
Yea after looking at that there's no chance it's the hemipenis it's deffo the umbilical chord I got a pretty good look today he was very calm and it's about a centimeter above the vent, I'll call the vets tomorrow and let you know what they say. |
| Sta~ple |
Posted - 30/05/2010 : 21:18:21
Aww that's really sad as well... poor little guy...
Snakes do have umbilical cords as I saw part of it hanging of my mardy hatchie and it kind of left a dried mark/scab when it came off somehow but he's fine.
But the umbilical never looked like it came from the vent, it was around that area but I'm sure it defiantly never came from the vent. |
| eeji |
Posted - 30/05/2010 : 21:11:26
theres a good chance thats the hemipenes. This is the tail of mine last year:
:( |
