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Takagi Posted - 22/04/2010 : 11:40:57
Ello,

Max (I think) has started to shed, or least I thought so... as when I fed him a few days back I notced his back half going bluish but front half looked fine.

Last night more of his rear half was going blue but still front half normal pinky colour.

He also was trying to push his head through the air vents in the side of the Faun, im not sure if he was trying to help shed or??

Just lil bit worried as not sure what to do with him, as did not think a shead would take this long by the stuff I have read

(If I can tonight im going to try and get some pic's to show what I mean as he spends alot of time hiding atm but does come out if dark enough and sits at the side of the Faun)
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Kellog Posted - 18/05/2010 : 05:49:25
I am so pleased that Max has finally shed successfully Paul. Well done for trying to check that the tail tip and eyecaps have come off. Must admit that I havent heard of a snake protecting its shed skin before. Couldnt you put him in a box briefly when you get him out to handle him so you can remove the shed? Think it would probably be a good idea.

It is fantastic that you had him out for that long , you should be really pleased with yourself! Dont worry about using the 1 glove, when you are ready you can take it off....but there is no pressure to do so. Of course it would be best not to have to use it but if that meant that you were stressing each time you handled him then that would be no good for him or you. So....in your own time.

It must be lovely seeing his colours coming through. Have no idea about how long they take to change....I would guess that it differs from snake to snake.

Would be great to see some pics of him when you can get them - but no pressure!

xxx
Takagi Posted - 17/05/2010 : 21:35:20
well side note as well,

(also sorry for not responding... works been a real pain in the behind...urgh)

anyhoo he finally shed after many days of labour (mainly me worrying like a lil old lady at bingo :p )was a clean shed by the looks of it tail and head all seem good from what I can see.... down side he seems quiet fond of it??? so am having to wait for feedin to remove it as when I go to remove it etc he goes all mental around it??? does not seem to harm him so a day or so should not hurt, least nothing ive read points that way?

also tonight after many weird and skittish attempts he was out for a good 15 min, was going for a quick few min but he just did not wanna go back. Down side was 1 glove as going over my hands seemed to make him jumpy?? prolly just me as was a lil bit nervous so prolly got clammy but after a while he was zoomin about between hands goin up my arm and tryin to stair me down heh (not sure what you do at that point? I know its not like dogs when you should show dominance or somthing) so pulled other hand around and let him go back down.

but yea over all was bloody brill, im calmin down, he is calm next time do 1 glove to start (yea I know) then go on to none :)

Also his sides are showing some slight yellow, only a tint mind you. So how long do they normaly take to go from baby colours to adult colours?as he is a 09 july-sept (guy was not 100%)

anyway will stop now befor I ramble on too much, and sorry was dumb struck watchin him did not get anyshots... though could now as he is zipping about all over his faun :p
DannyBrown91 Posted - 08/05/2010 : 12:50:11
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Oh I have those yellow tongues too! The first time I used them they seemed intreted as well and that was it until they got bored but the second time I got a strike.



I had some but they broke. I just use fingers at the minute.

Will get some soon though, sometimes casper just ignores the food untill its had a little wiggle, but she can be pretty violent lol.



Your a lot braver thn me. I don't like touching them at all once they have defrost so I like the tweezers x.x Watch you dont get your fingers bitten while you wiggle with your hands although it is quite amusing watching them trying to eat your hand

Glad to know the mark has gone :) If it is poo your very lucky as then you can see when to handle him and when not to incase he poos on you ^^



My snakes are only little so its not to bad if they get you. Im used to casper biting me she very often does if i don't wash my hands between feeding her and putting her back in her faun. She soon lets go when she realises im not food and it dosn't hurt so its all good.

OP Sorry for going off topic
n/a Posted - 08/05/2010 : 12:43:24
my mum got bitten by our old rat snake few years back while feeding her, she didnt think the snake saw the mouse and went to move it the snake latched on to her finger, kinda funny
Sta~ple Posted - 08/05/2010 : 12:20:44
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Oh I have those yellow tongues too! The first time I used them they seemed intreted as well and that was it until they got bored but the second time I got a strike.



I had some but they broke. I just use fingers at the minute.

Will get some soon though, sometimes casper just ignores the food untill its had a little wiggle, but she can be pretty violent lol.



Your a lot braver thn me. I don't like touching them at all once they have defrost so I like the tweezers x.x Watch you dont get your fingers bitten while you wiggle with your hands although it is quite amusing watching them trying to eat your hand

Glad to know the mark has gone :) If it is poo your very lucky as then you can see when to handle him and when not to incase he poos on you ^^
Takagi Posted - 08/05/2010 : 12:05:50
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Originally posted by Sta~ple

Oh I have those yellow tongues too! The first time I used them they seemed intreted as well and that was it until they got bored but the second time I got a strike.

I think I see what you mean about the black mark, it could be organs or poo. Has it always been there?



I noticed it last week, but when he was out for his tea the other day I could not see it, so yea was either some pooh about to "exit" or some organs... Im watchin him alot at the moment just in case but cant see anything so was prolly the above
Mouse Posted - 07/05/2010 : 15:40:15
I defrost mine in warm water. I always check they're defrosted before feeding them tho! :D
DannyBrown91 Posted - 07/05/2010 : 15:04:01
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Originally posted by Sta~ple

Oh I have those yellow tongues too! The first time I used them they seemed intreted as well and that was it until they got bored but the second time I got a strike.



I had some but they broke. I just use fingers at the minute.

Will get some soon though, sometimes casper just ignores the food untill its had a little wiggle, but she can be pretty violent lol.
Sta~ple Posted - 07/05/2010 : 14:59:04
Oh I have those yellow tongues too! The first time I used them they seemed intreted as well and that was it until they got bored but the second time I got a strike.

I think I see what you mean about the black mark, it could be organs or poo. Has it always been there?
Takagi Posted - 07/05/2010 : 10:12:03
thanks for the help :)

AS for defrosting, generally get them out when I get back from work and sort out my tea etc etc so get a good 3 hours, then stick in the lil RUB and then the fun of getting him from his home to the feeding ground.... thats fun... once he notice's food if there calms down and is happy heh

but yea he took both and was a happy lil camper, also cleaned out his Faun done some redecorating which he spent a few hours exploring and twisting about his tree and seemed quiet happy

As for the black mark I mentioned, it was in the 2nd shot the best, bout 3rd the way back from his tail (roughly) but when had him out to his tea got a good look up and down and all seemed well.

For the pinky's, Yea I got them in a small tub as dont wanna have pea's and pinky's for me tea hehe

And onr final note, he attemted a strike at the 2nd pinky I was stickin in (or he really does not like the yellow tongs) but missed and looked a bit sheepish as curled back and waited till I put it down for him. But yea he really does not seem to like the yellow tongs I have.... he follows them and .. dunno just acts weird when I use them
gmac Posted - 06/05/2010 : 20:02:23
from freezer to plastic locust box then sit on a shelf at room temp till defrosted, then quick dip in warm water before offering
n/a Posted - 06/05/2010 : 19:58:40
double bag the mice or put them into a old marg tub x
Sta~ple Posted - 06/05/2010 : 19:51:48
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How do others defrost their mice?

I put mine in a plastic food bag and then into some warm water for a few minutes whilst i sort the snakes out ready for them toe at.



I put mine in a RUB that I will feed the snake in and put it on a heatmat mat and leave to thaw. The heat mat kinda warms the mousey so it's nice and warm for when they eat it. I put the adults food in their viv in a sealed container as it warms, it give off a smell and wakes them up and kinda prepares them for feeding. I don't trust myself to put the food in warm water to thaw, I wouldn't even trust thawing sausages that way lol.

Pinkies I leave for 2 hours to defrost just to make sure and so they warm for the fussy eaters and the adults ones I get out in the morning and feed them at night. I'm kinda paranoid about giving them not properly defrosted mice.

DannyBrown91 Posted - 06/05/2010 : 19:41:22
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They can be freezed for ages. I had that with mine once, I think it's just ice crystals. They disapear if you defrost them for a good amount of time, six hours minimium.



do you just leave your mice to defrost at room temp?

How do others defrost their mice?

I put mine in a plastic food bag and then into some warm water for a few minutes whilst i sort the snakes out ready for them toe at.
hillzi Posted - 06/05/2010 : 19:32:38
They can be freezed for ages. I had that with mine once, I think it's just ice crystals. They disapear if you defrost them for a good amount of time, six hours minimium.

Better be safe than sorry IMO!

Nice corn snake btw!

What part of his tail is black?
Sta~ple Posted - 06/05/2010 : 19:16:05
Not sure. I noticed that some of my pinkies gad freezer burn on them the other week but the rest didn't so it could really be down to the shop and how fresh they are. If they are in a bag in the freezer (which I hope they are otherwise you will be taking the mices out along with your peas lol) then maybe just squeeze the air out of the bag.
Takagi Posted - 06/05/2010 : 17:38:33
cooli well as long as it wont hurt him,

should I only keep them in the frezzer for a week or so to avoid frezer burn?
hiper2009 Posted - 06/05/2010 : 16:50:50
That pinky/ratpup looks like it has frostbite.
Takagi Posted - 06/05/2010 : 16:42:08
..few...

heh normaly my own food is barley in there for 3-4 days :p so have not seen it befor, cheers well off to defrost and tea time for him later on

and less computer staring time hehe, I thought I was bad at 12 hours a day at work lol
Sta~ple Posted - 06/05/2010 : 16:38:02
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He willl be skitish because when shedding snakes go virtually blind as the layer of skin over there eyes gets ready to come off. As said the whole process can take a while, just keep an eye on him.



I also find that varies with each snake ;) Venom will act normal and the Char becomes more calmer.

The dark patch is probably his gall bladder, I would be worried if you couldn't see it on a lighter snake.



Yes but him being blue will be the reason why he was skittish at that time.

If you read the comment above takagi was saying that he had become quite skittish, but was in blue coming up to a shed.

I also find that younger smaller snakes are more skittish anyway, Casper still strikes at me when she is blue, and Reggie rattles his tail like mad.

Candy is still as calm as ever though.



Opps sorry, been staring at a computer screen for 16 hours a day for this past week *_*

It looks like freezer burn to me. It's harmless for them to eat it.

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