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hiper2009 Posted - 22/07/2009 : 00:19:31
Can any one help me please as champagne is weird he keeps going in his cave and then coming out of it every 10mins and goes towards the cool side and has a dip in the water and then goes back to the cave lol is this normal for him to do this ?

Also do i let him settle in the viv with out handling for 7days as i just got him today and after he keeps dipping him self in the water is it best if i change the water as he keeps going in it and im getting paranoid when his head goes under the water i think he will drown help me please im really worried and dont know what to do shal i make his water bowl more shallow ?
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SexyBear77 Posted - 25/07/2009 : 09:22:59
quote:
Originally posted by hiper2009

I have no idea i just felt really bad knowing that his feed was due and it made me kinda down so i thought i wont handle him ill just feed him and he took it stright away and ate it so fast,

Can any one tell me when he will pooh bcos i fed him 12am on friday and i have checked his viv and there is no weeee or poo



Its a snake, they go months without food with no problems and he won't, I'm sure, hold it against you.

He will poop when he wants to- mine its normally 2-3 days after a feed. Just be patient.
hiper2009 Posted - 25/07/2009 : 02:09:01
I have no idea i just felt really bad knowing that his feed was due and it made me kinda down so i thought i wont handle him ill just feed him and he took it stright away and ate it so fast,

Can any one tell me when he will pooh bcos i fed him 12am on friday and i have checked his viv and there is no weeee or poo
SexyBear77 Posted - 24/07/2009 : 16:55:12
If the advice was so great, why did you just ignore it?

I'm glad your snake ate and all, but seriously...
hiper2009 Posted - 24/07/2009 : 15:02:23
quote:
Originally posted by Kellog

quote:

Want to thank every one who has gave me great/ fantasic advise.
Regards Ash.



Thanks not necessary Ash, feels good to help even if I dont really know much yet. I am pretty good at reassurance and saying what great advice you get from 'those who are knowledgable'!! xxx



I know i went against what you all said about to skip his feed but i fed him last night and he striked at the mouse and then constricted it and ate it and it was amazing
Kellog Posted - 24/07/2009 : 04:24:22
quote:

Want to thank every one who has gave me great/ fantasic advise.
Regards Ash.



Thanks not necessary Ash, feels good to help even if I dont really know much yet. I am pretty good at reassurance and saying what great advice you get from 'those who are knowledgable'!! xxx
hiper2009 Posted - 22/07/2009 : 23:53:41
Hes CB07 and 2 years old and 3ft long and the viv is about 3.5ft the lady at the reptile shop was very good and she let me test all the hides with him and the super small one was not good for him and the small also , he has a medium hide were he fits perfect in to and he sleeps allday in it and then comes out and goes to the cool side , hes not gone in the water today since i adjusted the thermostat so yesterday i think it was abit to hot for him i lowered it down so i got a reading of 27c on thermometer and not 29.4c so that has helpped him alot i think if he is happy then i am happy as i want the best for him.

I am not going to feed him tomorrow due to the fact of the advise i have had from people on this forum so i will be feeding champagne next thursday i will keep you all posted of any changes that happens until he has his dinner next week.

But so far he seems like he is settling in very well he loves to explore the viv he goes around it over 6 times i spent like a few hours just watching what he does and its very intresting he loves climbing alot ahahahaha.

Want to thank every one who has gave me great/ fantasic advise.

Regards Ash.
Blackecho Posted - 22/07/2009 : 23:11:00
quote:
Originally posted by kevind1989

you should Leave your corn for a week without handling them when u get them, just change water daily, Maybe your mat is too hot and hes overheating then going into the water to cool off,
do you have a hide on the cold side of the viv?
is the mat inside the tank or outside?
if inside is there anything between the snake and the mat?
are you using a stat?



Good questions.

quote:
Originally posted by sexychef

righty to start with i am guessing you are taking the temp reading trom the dialon the stat that willbe incorrect you need a digi thermometer to calabrate it.
aim for 28-30c at the hot end.
get a hide in the cool end.
if it keeps bathing other the next day or so check it for mites. (have you treated the substrate at all?)



Good advice.

This is the problem with getting a snake before you have the setup up, running and checked. However, follow the advice given and it'll be ok.

Also, you mentioned a 'big' hide, snakes (especially young) are quite agoraphobic and like nothing better than squeezing into small spaces so that when they curl up they can feel all the sides and preferably the top of the hide too. It makes them feel safe.
hiper2009 Posted - 22/07/2009 : 20:29:33
quote:
Originally posted by Kellog

Hi Ash! Glad about the mites (I should have thought about checking the water). Also glad you have given him another hide. It will be interesting to see if his behaviour changes or if he is just a water-loving corn! xxx



Can you tell me what spot checking is as some one on here told me to do it but i have no idea what it means or is ... sorry i am just retarded and is my first snake.
Kellog Posted - 22/07/2009 : 20:05:26
Hi Ash! Glad about the mites (I should have thought about checking the water). Also glad you have given him another hide. It will be interesting to see if his behaviour changes or if he is just a water-loving corn! xxx
hiper2009 Posted - 22/07/2009 : 19:36:35
quote:
Originally posted by Kellog

I know how worried you are Hiper, you have waited for this snake and got a great set-up and everything and then you bring him home and he starts behaving in a way that is not what you would expect. DONT PANIC. Take the advice given here, definitely top of the list is a hide in each end and I would suggest changing waterbath into sopmething like a dogs bowl that is a lot shallower and also has rounded edges. He is getting used to a new environment and is propably pretty stressed out, which might account for the unusual behaviour but take your time, dont rush him. Certainly dont handle him for a week and then for only short periods, and I would also wait that period before feeding him - it really wont harm him. I know how much this goes against our nature as we want our best for our snakes and that means providing them with food and a home, but until he is happy in that home trying to feed him might just stress him out more. Each day check substrate for any mess and change drinking water, that way he gets used to your hand in his viv and your smell - but dont try and touch him. Then in a week try the feed. One way to check for mites might be to put paper kitchen towels down over top of substrate so he has to slide over them, you could then look and see if there are any black dots on it, indicating mites. Not sure about that but you can check it out with 'those who know best' LOL - the moderators. Just give him time...... xxx PS - if I have said anything wrong or unhelpful please could someone put me right, just trying to help but last thing I want to do is make matters worse!



Your right , and by the way my name is Ash and i wont feed him tomorrow ill feed him next thursday, i have gave him another hide at the cool end its a tempory butter tub lol until i order one off the reptile website. and with the mites i looked in his water and it was clear no black dots or anything ill keep checking to be on the safe side.
cumbrian eejit Posted - 22/07/2009 : 19:28:05
you will only need to change the water once a day, unless he goes to the toilet in it, you need to keep your going into the viv at a bare minimum during the settling in period.
hiper2009 Posted - 22/07/2009 : 19:21:17
quote:
Originally posted by cumbrian eejit

re:- mites, you could also take a look in the water bowl when you change the water, you might be able to see tiny black specks in the water, if there are any these will be the mites, if there are the best treatment to start off would be to change the substrate for paper towels, sterilize everything in the viv, including the viv. I know you can use treatment's such as olive oil and frontline, but I've never had any dealings with mites so I would not like to say for sure on how to treat.
Scott.




Thank you for your post i have checked the water bowl and its clean ive changed the water 3 times today due to he keeps going in it.
cumbrian eejit Posted - 22/07/2009 : 16:45:06
re:- mites, you could also take a look in the water bowl when you change the water, you might be able to see tiny black specks in the water, if there are any these will be the mites, if there are the best treatment to start off would be to change the substrate for paper towels, sterilize everything in the viv, including the viv. I know you can use treatment's such as olive oil and frontline, but I've never had any dealings with mites so I would not like to say for sure on how to treat.
Scott.
Kellog Posted - 22/07/2009 : 16:22:26
I know how worried you are Hiper, you have waited for this snake and got a great set-up and everything and then you bring him home and he starts behaving in a way that is not what you would expect. DONT PANIC. Take the advice given here, definitely top of the list is a hide in each end and I would suggest changing waterbath into sopmething like a dogs bowl that is a lot shallower and also has rounded edges. He is getting used to a new environment and is propably pretty stressed out, which might account for the unusual behaviour but take your time, dont rush him. Certainly dont handle him for a week and then for only short periods, and I would also wait that period before feeding him - it really wont harm him. I know how much this goes against our nature as we want our best for our snakes and that means providing them with food and a home, but until he is happy in that home trying to feed him might just stress him out more. Each day check substrate for any mess and change drinking water, that way he gets used to your hand in his viv and your smell - but dont try and touch him. Then in a week try the feed. One way to check for mites might be to put paper kitchen towels down over top of substrate so he has to slide over them, you could then look and see if there are any black dots on it, indicating mites. Not sure about that but you can check it out with 'those who know best' LOL - the moderators. Just give him time...... xxx PS - if I have said anything wrong or unhelpful please could someone put me right, just trying to help but last thing I want to do is make matters worse!
hiper2009 Posted - 22/07/2009 : 16:17:30
quote:
Originally posted by kevind1989

Also just to let you know ouve posted your Sig picture twice



Sorry didnt relise
cumbrian eejit Posted - 22/07/2009 : 16:14:32
please don't take this the wrong way, but please listen to what other's have said,
Leave your snake alone for 7days minimum! Only go in the vivarium to change the water,
Your temp's sound fine at the warm end, just make sure that s/he has a suitable hide at both ends, these can be anything from the end of a cereal box right up to the proper rep hides from a store, just make sure that the snake can feel all sides of the hide.
As for feeding, once the 7 days have gone by just give him/her a single mouse as you would normally.
Scott.
n/a Posted - 22/07/2009 : 15:51:12
Also just to let you know ouve posted your Sig picture twice
n/a Posted - 22/07/2009 : 15:50:35
well i dont know the best answer for this, but really you should leave them alone for the week unless u HAVE to handle them, there is no harm in her missing one weeks feed, snakes can go a surprisingly long time without feeding without causing harm.
hiper2009 Posted - 22/07/2009 : 14:20:34
What happens if i feed my champagne on thursday and it will be the 3rd day for him in the viv !
hiper2009 Posted - 22/07/2009 : 13:19:11
quote:
Originally posted by kevind1989

http://www.boaconstrictor.de/com/Haltung/Milben.htm

thats a link off of another thread i found on here, hope this helps



Thank you .

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