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Coal Posted - 27/06/2013 : 14:41:54
Hi all, so I just decided to pop in to a pet shop near where I work, more out of curiosity and a desire to see some animals than anything else. I recognised as soon as I went in that the condition of the animals was mediocre at best so I wasn't impressed but I decided to have a nose around anyway. I wasn't expecting them to have snakes but upstairs they had a pair of what seemed to be (rather skinny) adult corns sharing a viv. One was clearly an amel but the other... well I have no idea, and that's what this thread's about.

I didn't have the presence of mind to take a photo at the time, but I can go back tomorrow and get one if necessary because I'm really curious to find out what it was. It was a rather pale yellowish colour but the weird thing was it seemed to have a green tinge, and I've never heard of a greenish morph before. I didn't get a look at its belly except that it seemed to be slightly paler but its bag had a sort of rounded zigzag pattern of darker dots... Sorry I know this is an awful description!

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if you guys told me it wasn't even a corn; it could have been a hybrid or something else entirely for all I know - the viv wasn't labelled in any way and I'm only assuming because the other snake in the viv was definitely an amel corn.

Any help identifying it would be great - will try to get pics tomorrow
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NexivRed Posted - 29/06/2013 : 22:05:30
Looks exactly like a hatchling in my local reptile shop. Can't remember what it was though.
AcidicAngel Posted - 29/06/2013 : 18:16:49
quote:
Originally posted by Coal

Hmm, looking at the pics Angel linked to, I'd say it looked very much like a Brooks king...



If it's a Brooks king then they must have either not long since put them together or they are keeping that king well fed... The reason King Snakes are called King Snakes is for the same reason as King Cobra's. It refers to their taste for other snakes flesh... Poor corn
Coal Posted - 29/06/2013 : 13:27:56
Hmm, looking at the pics Angel linked to, I'd say it looked very much like a Brooks king...
AcidicAngel Posted - 29/06/2013 : 10:29:34
It looks King to me, I'm going by head shape and patterns. Bull snakes have really, really blocky heads you'd be able to tell but the Speckled King and the Brooks kind have heads like that one in the picture.

Bull Snake - http://coldbloodedpets.midnight-shift.net/wp-content/gallery/misc-snakes/hypobull.jpg

Speckled King - http://coldbloodedpets.midnight-shift.net/wp-content/gallery/snakes-king/brooksi-hypo-king.jpg
Brooks King - http://serpentrack.com/images/users/specimens/22_177_f.jpg
smart bunny Posted - 29/06/2013 : 09:31:07
OMG they think it's a corn :O What useless idiots!!! As Razee says, if it is a king, keeping it in with a corn is just asking for trouble... :(
Coal Posted - 29/06/2013 : 08:57:36
quote:
Originally posted by Razee

...If it is, I certainly wouldn't be happy keeping it in with a corn snake, even though the corn looks big enough not to be eaten...



The corn is actually slightly bigger, but I agree about not keeping them in together
Razee Posted - 29/06/2013 : 08:56:37
Looks like a king snake of some sort to me, too, but difficult to say from pics.

If it is, I certainly wouldn't be happy keeping it in with a corn snake, even though the corn looks big enough not to be eaten...
Coal Posted - 29/06/2013 : 08:54:38
Thanks for your replies everyone <3

I wasn't sure it was a corn either, just because I'd never heard of a morph like it, but now that I think about it it's head shape was a little odd, it was quite blocky but narrower at the base than most corns; it looked more sleek.

And I did ask the shop keeper; they insist it's a corn... :/
smart bunny Posted - 29/06/2013 : 08:36:17
Definitely not a corn lol!! I also thought a pit of some kind from that head shot, could be king though... Have you actually asked the shopkeeper? Would probably be a lot easier!
Georgina Posted - 29/06/2013 : 07:58:00
Looks very bull like to me x
AcidicAngel Posted - 28/06/2013 : 22:59:39
quote:
Originally posted by eeji

definitely not a corn, theres not much to go on from the pics so my best guess is some species of Pituophis (gopher/pine/bull)?




Definitely not a Gopher, Pine or Bull snake as the head shape and patterns are wrong. I still think it's either a Speckled or a Brooks King Snake. Just looking at head shape
eeji Posted - 28/06/2013 : 21:27:38
definitely not a corn, theres not much to go on from the pics so my best guess is some species of Pituophis (gopher/pine/bull)?
ScaryVonHayleystine Posted - 28/06/2013 : 21:19:11
Doesnt look like any corn ive seen, i think its another snake species. Morph however i dont know.
AcidicAngel Posted - 28/06/2013 : 19:35:30
Could it possibly be a Hypomelanistic Brooks King Snake or something similar? Lampropeltis Getula Brooksi.

Just thought of something else it could be! A Hypo Speckled King Snake! Lampropeltis Getula Holbrooki.
Coal Posted - 28/06/2013 : 19:03:58
Okay so Pictures!

Just a warning, these are terrible. They're taken with my phone camera and the little bugger was lying write up against the wooden border at the front of the viv. so the angles are all... no. Anyway, hopefully they'll help a little:

His (her? I have no idea) adorable little face (ignore the fella' at the back):

And his back (couldn't get a ventral shot, sorry!):




So any ideas chaps? Would really appreciate it if someone could identify this mysterious little guy (not that I'm tempted or anything...)
Coal Posted - 28/06/2013 : 09:43:45
I will try to get pics today and out them up this evening :)
ScaryVonHayleystine Posted - 27/06/2013 : 22:25:01
pictures of the petshop snake, or my abbey? :L
tk72 Posted - 27/06/2013 : 21:40:29
We need a picture of this please.
ScaryVonHayleystine Posted - 27/06/2013 : 18:07:31
My abbey is a green spot snow/bubblegum snow corn. So could be similar to her :)
Coal Posted - 27/06/2013 : 17:16:08
quote:
Originally posted by AcidicAngel

quote:
Originally posted by SilverWings

Aztec bubblegum? o.O



Bubblegums are more pink and green than yellow and green



Yeah it was definitely darker and more yellowish than the bubblegums I've seen online, though thanks a lot for the suggestion Silver :)

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